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The Day After pollinating the BLC 'Rustic Spots' and POT Haw Yuan Gold

This is a discussion on The Day After pollinating the BLC 'Rustic Spots' and POT Haw Yuan Gold within the Breeding & Hybridization forums, part of the Orchid Propagation category; Good to have someone who knows about the cross-breeding possibilities. Thanks, Atanta, for your advise. ...

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    Good to have someone who knows about the cross-breeding possibilities. Thanks, Atanta, for your advise. Can you tell me if there's anywhere on the Internet a website that can tell me, which tribes of orchids (or genuses) would be compatible with each other? That would help me a lot!

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    I myself havent bred anything as of yet but im researching as much as i can before i do. I dont want to make just any old cross, nor sterile babies. There seems to be alot involved if you want the progeny to be superior. I havent come across any such web sites but when looking at genus names you can tell what they have bred with....within this forum there is a list of genus names and there mixes OrchidTalk Orchid Forums - Grow Orchids! RVO's Orchid Genus Listing......also if you look at online encyclopedias for species you can find what family they are in....for example.. Phalaenopsis, Cattleya, Paphiopedilum, and Dendrobium are all in separate families and cannot be bred together. Maybe some experts will tune in soon. If you have a question about a specific two that you want to breed then just post a thread. Im sure someone will answer.

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    Thanks for the hints, Atanta.

    Attached photos: Two Days After Pollination Attempt

    The BLC starts to lose its many dots. There's still a light fragrance.
    The POT becomes weaker. There's still a light fragrance.
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    Attached photos: Three Days After Pollination Attempt

    All three blossoms of the BLC are now hanging down and the stem of each blossom darkens towards a dark brown. I can't recognize any fragrance anymore. The main stem from where each of the three blossoms derives, seems to get darker, too. Is that normal?
    The two blossoms of the POT weaken further, and it seems the stem of each blossom becomes weaker, too. I can't recognize any fragrance anymore.
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    They aren't going to produce. The ovary has turned yellow. If pollination was succesful it would remain green and begin to swell.
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    I second Jeff.

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    Oh nooo. What a pity. But it was worth the try. I wished I would know what went wrong, since in one blossom of each kind of orchid I put their own pollen, at least that one should have been successfully. Really sad. I will have to wait for months now...

    By the way, what could have caused the failure?
    And how far is the stem of the three BLC blossoms going to get yellow and maybe disappear?

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    Firstly your Blc rustic spots did not have viable pollen. Secondly many orchids, most for that matter avoid self pollination and have special contrivances for cross pollination, in that case the stigma recognises self pollen and aborts the the flower.

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    I've had the same thing happen for no apparent reason. Sometimes they just won't breed. How old was the flower? Could have been too old. Had they been open at least 3 days? You don't want to attempt too early. I also seem to have better success pollinating in the morning. This shouldn't really make a difference.
    Take the time now to do some reading. There are plenty of articles and diagrams of orchid flower parts. Also learn what species will breed with each other. Only make one cross with each flower and properly label and record the cross. You will want to know this if you ever want to show or register it.
    As for the inflorescense, you can just remove them using a sterile blade of course. They will just continue to dry up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrey6115 View Post
    I also seem to have better success pollinating in the morning. This shouldn't really make a difference.
    Jeff pollination time definitely makes a lot of difference. Stigmas will only be receptive for a particular time period, depending on the natural pollinator, during other times the stigmas are non-receptive and can also produce secretions that will kill unspecific pollen (or correct pollen at the wrong time). You must have definitely noticed that scented orchids produce a fragrance only for a limited amount of time also at te same time everyday. This is a good indication that the stigma is receptive.

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