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    Hello, not sure if this is the right thread but I have a question regarding kieki grow paste. Normally, I would let my phal do as it pleases but I bought a noid that has the most lovely flowers and I want a back up plant just in case.

    My question, on which knuckle should I apply the past? third from the bottom? forth? It is still in semi-bloom but may be reaching the point where it needs to rest.

    Advice welcomed.

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    3rd ,4th and 5th should be ok no problem just to observe the keiki progress, the best after the flower wither and dropped off.

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    How successful is using the Keiki paste? What do you use? I have an old NOID Phal that I really would like to get "backup" plants from too!

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    Well, I have been experimenting. I have four phals that are in spike and applied the past to the 3rd and 4th knuckle of spike after peeling back the protective skin. So far, only one looks like it is making a keiki, but it is a slow, slow process and I am not 100% it is a keiki...not the growth rate I have read and seen in videos. One consideration from zainal that I did not do, was to wait until all the flowers were withered. So far, not the results I was hoping for but it may be due to my inexperience with using it.

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    What paste did you use? My old Phal has three leftover spikes from the last three years which are green and healthy, last year's is growing on the tip and will rebloom, maybe I can mess with one of the older ones - nothing to lose!

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    I have been experimenting with keiki grow paste on my phals too, since last spring. I applied to 3rd, 4th, 5th nodes on all patients. Some plants were still in blooming mode and some had finished. The ones in blooming mode produced new flower spikes or bizarre lumpy green growth and no keikis. Two finished ones developed 2 keikis on the 3rd and 4th nodes. Those keikis are both Siamese twins (probably not divisible) and now have roots 3" long. Each double-keiki has two flower spikes coming from the base. It looks really strange to have 12" flower spikes coming from a keiki with 4" leaves perched double-decker on an old spike. When they are finished blooming on the mother stalk, I'll pot them up together. The mother has lost her crown, so good thing I propagated backups! After applying the paste, the growth was very quick to appear but very slow to develop, esp. the roots. The experiments started last April. Some keikis I separated from the mother and potted up in their own little pots in August (keiki potty training!). Some I left on the spike (as described above). Some I potted up in the mother plant's pot, because someone here said they liked being together. Everyone is happy now, so apparently anything goes. Contrary to lore, I have 2 flower spikes coming from one of the loner keikis in their tiny tiny pots! I thought that would take 2 years.

    This year I will wait until everyone is done blooming and apply the paste with mad-scientist glee!

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    Here is Dtps. KV Charmer, with a flower spike and a keiki on an old spike with its own 2 flower spikes and a root!Name:  007.JPG
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    Thank you for the interesting response. Now I'm excited by the possibilities!

    Can anyone tell me what is the best product to use? I've looked online and I'm not sure what to get. Thanks!

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    The thing is, although it seems a tiny vial of very sticky paste, it's enough for a zillion keikis. All you need is a tiny dot on the end of a toothpick. Best to go in with a few (10?) other orchid friends. It doesn't keep well and should not get too cold--no fridge storage. BTW, do NOT get it on your hands--it doesn't come off, and you may grow some strange appendages!

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    Thanks, I'll look into it and be careful, I don't need strange appendages!

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