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Need advice to help me save my Paph!

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    Question Need advice to help me save my Paph!

    This paph had amazing bloom when I brought her home form a show in late October, bloom lasted about 30 days. Another spike seemed to be growing nicely, but I noticed that one of the lowest leaf is starting to yellow ( normal color of the leaf is pale green with a darker green mottled pattern). Also, the plant is dry at the surface. And, in the area where the leaf bases meet, there is tiny bit of whitish powderiness, more like minerals than insects. The leaf cluster of the new spike is about 4.5 inches tall. Also, visible in the photo, the roots on the top surface of the plant are dead/dried out. Please help, I'd really like to see this beauty flower again ( do not know the variety, but was a stunning dark wine and red combo).

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    I don't see anything seriously wrong with your Paph, though it does look a little stressed. A good picture of the whole plant, especially showing any new growth, would be more helpful than the dark blurry close-ups.

    Older leaves eventually die back, and once they start there isn't anything that can stop it. As long as the yellowing leaf is the bottom leaf on an older mature fan of leaves, and newer growth is healthy, it isn't necessarily a sign of any serious problem.

    The plant does perhaps look like it has been through dry conditions, low humidity, maybe a little too long between watering. You didn't say anything about the care you give, humidity, light, water quality, fertilizer. Some info would be helpful.

    One thing I can say for sure... Anytime a Paph isn't doing well you should un-pot it to check the health of the roots, and it would probably be a good idea to repot it with fresh potting mix. Most Paphs should be repotted at least once a year, usually spring is ideal, but better sooner rather than later unless it has been recently repotted and you absolutely know the roots are healthy.

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    I agree with Kirk, this is normal, I would pot it into a new mix and water it a bit more. It should flower for you again next year on the new growth.

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    Very good advice and pointers from Kirk. Many paph growers tend to put off repotting and that's a great mistake.

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    Default Thanks and more paph. Info

    Thanks, all , I will repot, though seems like the grower must have planted in less than 1 year. I am switching the location back from east- n east to w- south west . I water @ 7 days or so, very cautious cuz I have overwater and killed several phals. I use warm tap water, and feed better bloom weakly, about twice a month. The room that. I'm relocating the plant to is warmer and more humid than the previous spot.

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    I've added 2 other shots of the whole plant , hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    Very good advice and pointers from Kirk. Many paph growers tend to put off repotting and that's a great mistake.
    Agreed. Repot ASAP and next year you should see blooms on its newest growth.

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    I don't know what the tap water quality is in the San Francisco area but when I lived in San Diego, the water had high mineral content. I couldn't even boil water without mineral sediments precipitating out. Your tap water may be too "hard" for watering orchids with it. That may be the white you see on some of the lower leaves.

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    The whole plant pictures look healthy. Definitely time to repot. The size of the current pot is fine, no need to move up in size, or just slightly. I share Ron-NY's concerns about hard water, and water that has been through a typical home water softener is even worse. Watering just once a week is almost certainly letting your plant get too dry. Paphs need more even moisture than Phals, never soggy but never dry either. If it is dry at the surface you should have watered yesterday. That's one reason that Paph's should be repotted at least once a year, the constant moisture breaks down the mix faster. Fresh media is also especially important when you have hard water. Any mineral build-up is really bad for most Paphs.

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