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Please ID this Catt

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    Can anyone help me ID this cattleya type orchid? Many of these grow attached to my aunt's mango tree and have been there ever since I can remember. It has a nice fragrance too.
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    wont be able to help with the name Angel, but its very beautiful... its quite similar to one of
    my catts unfortunately its a noid as well.

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    Thanks Randy. I've never been a big cattleya fan. That's why I never gave this one much attention. They practically live "wild" on the trees since nobody takes care of them. Even the watering is left to the rain. Yet they thrive and seem to increase in number every time I visit my aunt.

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    Your picture jogged my memory. I remember seeing a clump of these growing and blooming on an anona tree in my uncle's garden in the 1950's. And last year I visited my old primary school teacher (in his 80s now) who was my uncle's neighbour in the 50s and he had a pot of them growing in his garden. He proudly told me that it was a present from my uncle.

    To cut a long story short ....it is the same catt that you posted. The name is C Portia, a very old cross that was registered in1897 - a cross between C bowringiana x labiata. You don't see many of them today. C Portia is not to be confused with C Porcia = C bowringiana x C Armstrongiae - registered in 1927.

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    Your picture jogged my memory. I remember seeing a clump of these growing and blooming on an anona tree in my uncle's garden in the 1950's. And last year I visited my old primary school teacher (in his 80s now) who was my uncle's neighbour in the 50s and he had a pot of them growing in his garden. He proudly told me that it was a present from my uncle.

    To cut a long story short ....it is the same catt that you posted. The name is C Portia, a very old cross that was registered in1897 - a cross between C bowringiana x labiata. You don't see many of them today. C Portia is not to be confused with C Porcia = C bowringiana x C Armstrongiae - registered in 1927.

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    wow Yew, thanks for the ID....

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    Your picture jogged my memory. I remember seeing a clump of these growing and blooming on an anona tree in my uncle's garden in the 1950's. And last year I visited my old primary school teacher (in his 80s now) who was my uncle's neighbour in the 50s and he had a pot of them growing in his garden. He proudly told me that it was a present from my uncle.

    To cut a long story short ....it is the same catt that you posted. The name is C Portia, a very old cross that was registered in1897 - a cross between C bowringiana x labiata. You don't see many of them today. C Portia is not to be confused with C Porcia = C bowringiana x C Armstrongiae - registered in 1927.
    That's interesting, I have both Portia and Porcia but I didn't think there was a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orchid lady View Post
    That's interesting, I have both Portia and Porcia but I didn't think there was a difference.
    You're not the only one who thinks that they are the same as there are a lot of similarities between the two as both have C bowringiana as one of the parents.Even many commercial establishments can't differentiate between the two insisting that they are different spelling of names of the same plant.

    Both plants are beautiful but C Porcia, in my opinion is superior tp C Portia especially the variety Cannizaro AM RHS 1936, AM AOS 1951, and FCC AOS 1988. Looking at the dates of the awards and the span of time of the awards as well as its registration in 1927, will give us an idea of how its beauty have stood the test of time.

    I recently saw a whole clump(2 x 4 ft) of blooming Porcia in the Cameron Highlands and have been promised a division on my next visit.

    Unfortunately, many of the Portia in our local collections are badly infected with virus that cause deformities in flowers as most of these plants have been passed down the generations. The plants themselves are very hardy in spite of the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    Your picture jogged my memory. I remember seeing a clump of these growing and blooming on an anona tree in my uncle's garden in the 1950's. And last year I visited my old primary school teacher (in his 80s now) who was my uncle's neighbour in the 50s and he had a pot of them growing in his garden. He proudly told me that it was a present from my uncle.

    To cut a long story short ....it is the same catt that you posted. The name is C Portia, a very old cross that was registered in1897 - a cross between C bowringiana x labiata. You don't see many of them today. C Portia is not to be confused with C Porcia = C bowringiana x C Armstrongiae - registered in 1927.
    That's great stuff Yew. Thank you so much. I never thought of orchids in the same historical way as I do with roses, as in all those venerable old garden roses. Now, you have changed all that. And to think that there is one very old hybrid growing in my very own yard! I don't think I will ever look at it in the same way again. Thanks to you.

    It's good that though, as you say, they aren't as common as they used to be, there are still some huge clumps of them in my aunt's garden, which had been there since my grandmother's time. I took home a few divisions some years ago. If I had not known any better, I would have thought that they were native to our place as they had been on my aunt's trees all my life.

    I think I've read your post at least six times. As usual, an interesting anecdote along with valuable information. It's just wonderful, Yew Sung.
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