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a few Vandaceous orchids Ascda Chuiangmai Gold and Vanda Susan delight

This is a discussion on a few Vandaceous orchids Ascda Chuiangmai Gold and Vanda Susan delight within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Maura, I repotted my cyms into two quart and gallon size lemonaid pitchers. The handles ...

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    Maura, I repotted my cyms into two quart and gallon size lemonaid pitchers. The handles make it easy to move them around, and supposedly cyms like tall pots, so they work that way too.

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    How creative and resourceful! Thanks for the idea.

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    Geoff,

    You questioned whether repotting may have affected bloom quality in your original post. What is your method for potting your vandas, and do vandas, in general, seem to suffer repotting stress?

    I have 2 vandas--more precisely, Vasco. Pine Rivers and Van. Comarie-- that are currently in 4 inch pots with about an inch of lava rock in the bottom. I suspect the roots in the media are mostly dead, on the Pine Rivers especially. The president of our orchid club keeps urging me to tie them up with wire basket hangers (sans basket) and let them hang out in the open. This works well for him in his greenhouse with misting 3 times a day, but frankly I can't figure out how he grows vandas so well in South Dakota winters near the 45th Parallel with no supplemental lighting. While I question my sanity altogether in bringing these two into my little homegrown collection, I'm not ready to take them full monty and am not sure I should mess with their pots at all. Thoughts?

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    Repot them ; if they have dead roots there, cut them off. Yes, there may be a set-back whilst they recover, but then they will go on and get better and better.
    I would not recommend growing bare root, no compost, unless they can be misted regularly - in fact they don't always do well even when they are . There was a garden on one of the Caribbean Islands (Barbados ?) where they had them bare root tied to wire fences, and someone going round spraying them. They were pretty good when I saw them one year. I went back the next year and was told they had all died ...but I have to admit that I know no more than that. maybe they were sprayed with bad water, or some other cause ; maybe they weren't sprayed at all if the gardener who "knew about orchids" left , and the only people remaining where only the oines who knew about collecting admission fees ..

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    Hi Geoff -

    How was your show this past weekend? If you look at the thread I started about my cymb in the New Members ask Senior Growers forum, I described a visit to a local retired professor's orchid greenhouse yesterday that absolutely delighted me. From the photos I posted, you can may be able to see that he has some vandas in hanging baskets, but was not really happy with them. He told me that vandas prefer really cool conditions, which are hard to get in Atlanta outside of a refrigeration unit. So, I was going to let that particular "I-Want-I-Need" go.... but you say they grew them in the Caribbean, of all places????? Would I be able to keep one alive in my own small orchid lab here? If so, any recommended for a first try?

    By the way, I told Dr. Glass about my exchanges with you and he agreed, so this thing is getting repotted pretty soon - one size up - and set outside when the temps here cool around October. He thinks it likely it will set spikes - how exciting is that! I wish I could jump the pond and see yours as easily....but this worldwide interethernet is pretty cool, too.

    I'm really off and running - my husband is getting very nervous.....

    Maura

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    I'll post a set of pics of the show as soon as processed - but I did quite well with two Awards of Merit ( one for my Mtps Ernest Fisher and the other for one of my Renantheras) ; we had best hybrid on our Society stand - an enormous Thunia with goodness knows how many flowering canes - 20 ? , and several othet members got awards of some sort or another; we got a Gold for the display. So all that was satisfactory. Unfortunately my order of a lot of specialist vandaceous stuff ( Ren x Paraphalanaeopsis hybrids etc ) went astray - the dealer had all his import seized because he had cleared customs in Germany ( perfectly legal - its in the EU) and although the boxes carried the customs stamp , he had not got the piece of paper saying that they had been stamped. Bureaucrats ... raise my blood pressure.

    Vandas for you ? They will grow OK I imagine - they grow in Bangkok as well as Changmai ,bit they need a temperature drop to induce spiking. If you can give them a ten or 15 deg drop that would do. I think this is true of all the tribe which contains Vanda, Phal, and dendrobiums. They certainly don't want really cool conditions !. V. sanderiana comes from Mindanao ( might not have spelled that right) which is a Phillipines Island, and my impression is that the climate is like Singapore - 88 in the winter, 88 in the summer... rains every 3 or 3 days, all the year round. Anyone in The Phillipines reading this may correct me ?

    But V coerulea, lives in the foothills of the Himalayas ; three seasons a year. Cool dry ( winter) warmer dry (summer) and wet - the one in between. I have seen it growing in Thailand at 5000 feet, but one splendid plant grows in Calcutta ( at the race-course) at sea-level. That has a different climate, so its not too fussy - and of course most broad leaf vanda hybrids have blood of botrh coerulea and sanderiana in them, and hence are easier still.

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    Congratulations Geoff!!

    Cheers,
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    Default Kudos and more questions...

    Sounds like nightmares followed by dreams-come-true! My blood pressure is going up just reading about the customs snafu. But, really, I can't wait to see the photos. Best Display - that must have been spectacular! Congratulations, indeed, sir. By the way, what does a "renanthera" look like, and a Thunia, for that matter? I don't think I've come across either of those yet - I know it's far soon to expect to know very much, but I'm gobbling up orchid information aright and left - and loving every minute of it!

    Maybe I'll give it a try with a vanda, although I fell in love with a beautiful cinnamon-scented species phal from Sumatra at the conservatory today and I've got some seriously warring "I-want-I-needs" going on right now.

    Okay - just looked at some renantheras and thunias in some of the other forums here - fascinating and unusual plants - BUT, I also looked at your Vanda pic and am hooked again. No wonder you've picked up so many awards - and really fabulous photography, too. It's wonderful to have such a high standard to which to aspire.

    I think so far these are my best photos - the first is from the conservatory, the second is my Dtps Sin Yuan. Still working with the 18-105 lens because the macro lens has been finicky about woking with my D80.

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