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Potinara Cloud's Creek 'Heavenly Scent'

This is a discussion on Potinara Cloud's Creek 'Heavenly Scent' within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; This is a beautiful orchid. When I see a beautiful orchids I always check the ...

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    This is a beautiful orchid.
    When I see a beautiful orchids I always check the genealogy in order to find out why it is beautiful and to find out which species are involved.

    This orchid was a big surprise for me. I never did check an orchid with a more complex genealogy than this Rlc. Cloud's Creek.

    It has approximately 170 ancestors. The main contributing species are
    C. dowiana 72 times
    C. bicolor 19 times
    C. warscewiczii 17 times
    C. tenebrosa 14 times
    Rl. digbyana 10 times
    C. cinnabarina 07 times
    Further are another 16 species involved with minor occurrence in between 1 and 3 times.
    An other big surprise was the 72 times occurrence of C. dowiana.
    I can't see traces of C. dowiana in this flower. Or do I miss something?
    Neither can I see traces of C. bicolor, C. tenebrosa, C. cinnabarina, C. warscewiczii.
    I can see the influence of Rl. digbyana in the ruffled lip.
    Does anybody have an explanation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horst View Post
    Amey,
    This you didn't got right. This hybrid has no Brassavola in it's genealogical tree.
    The majority of this hybrids ancestors have naturally narrow or medium large segments.
    We can see a influence of Rhyncholaelia digbyana in the lip. Everything else can't be traced back to any other species because it is a very complex hybrid. Rhyncholaelia digbyana (ex. Brassavola digbyana) appears only two times and counts for less than 3% influence.
    Amey,
    As you can see from my other reply to this thread I was intrigued by this flower and I tracked more precise. I must confess that my first track wasn't correct.
    The influence of Rl. digbyana is about 6%.
    Pardon me. Next time I will not shoot from the hip.

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    The only explanation are the laws of genetics and selection. I will try and explain with an illustrated example later when I am not at work LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by Horst View Post
    This is a beautiful orchid.
    When I see a beautiful orchids I always check the genealogy in order to find out why it is beautiful and to find out which species are involved.

    This orchid was a big surprise for me. I never did check an orchid with a more complex genealogy than this Rlc. Cloud's Creek.

    It has approximately 170 ancestors. The main contributing species are
    C. dowiana 72 times
    C. bicolor 19 times
    C. warscewiczii 17 times
    C. tenebrosa 14 times
    Rl. digbyana 10 times
    C. cinnabarina 07 times
    Further are another 16 species involved with minor occurrence in between 1 and 3 times.
    An other big surprise was the 72 times occurrence of C. dowiana.
    I can't see traces of C. dowiana in this flower. Or do I miss something?
    Neither can I see traces of C. bicolor, C. tenebrosa, C. cinnabarina, C. warscewiczii.
    I can see the influence of Rl. digbyana in the ruffled lip.
    Does anybody have an explanation?

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    Here is a link to an explanation I put up in a thread.

    http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchid...tml#post243033

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