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Three pretty Orchids - two noid

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    Default Three pretty Orchids - two noid

    The first photos show a neat new acquisition with the rather distinguished name of Gtc. Ernest Cromwell Then I have a couple of noids - one, a lovely lavender dendrobium, the other a stunning 4-spiked Miltonia. Any help with names, crosses, etc, would be gratefully accepted.

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    As always, Maura

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    I'm in love with the first plant...that must be a relation of the Why Not plants I see. They look very similar. Pretty...and I hope someone knows the names of the other two. Most nameless plants I give a fun name to so I remember where I got it from and when I bought it. Whatever their names they are all beauties!

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    Thank you -

    The first one really IS called Gtc. Ernest Cromwell; I acquired it at a recent orchid society meeting featuring growers who really do create their own hybrids - cross-pollination, etc, etc, and this one, I believe is also tagged as a division, so I'm not sure how many Ernests are running around. I'm going to do some further research on it, if I can keep my head from exploding with too much information!

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    The second two shall remain noids unless the people you got them from know. The second is a Dendrobium, the third a Miltoniopsis. The Ernest Cromwell is a Guaricattonia (Gct.) - Gtc. is a related but different Genus.
    The parents of this plant are Guaritonia (Grt.) Why Not X Cattlytonia (Ctna.) Dal's Tony.
    Guaritonia = Guarianthe X Cattleya X Broughtonia.
    Ernest Cromwell was initially registered as Laeliocattonia (Laelia X Cattleya X Broughtonia) Ernest Cromwell, because at the time C. tenebrosa was still considered Laelia tenebrosa, and C. auriantiaca was not yet a Guarianthe. Everyone take a deep braeath and remember, it's only flowers.

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    Pretty orchids Maura.

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    I suppose I can add a little sleuthing to my research and try to track down the original growers of the noids - I've found that the retail end is astonishingly devoid of information. I have spent the majority of my life working with words, and the sheer power of a name can be substantial - at least to me. Tell me, do you have an OED-like set of volumes on orchids? Just curious, since I far prefer to read from an actual book to trotting all over the internet.

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    Maura there are many volumes listing the crosses etc, RHS comes out with one at least annually. But there are so many changes in names, classifications etc, new hybrids are registered so often, that it makes sense to to look for it in a real time data like the internet. You can also always buy softwares like AQ plus or Orchid Wiz which give detailed pedigrees and much more info. I find the RHS orchid registry a very nice place to look fro information, its free and easy to use.
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    I suppose I can add a little sleuthing to my research and try to track down the original growers of the noids - I've found that the retail end is astonishingly devoid of information. I have spent the majority of my life working with words, and the sheer power of a name can be substantial - at least to me. Tell me, do you have an OED-like set of volumes on orchids? Just curious, since I far prefer to read from an actual book to trotting all over the internet.

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    Thanks Amey - I actually have found my way to the RHS site and have had some success there. Tell me, have you ever found a couple of id tags that you know match one of your still-noid orchids and figured out how to match them up? I'm afraid I was pretty careless when I began this journey and I have several phal tags with just one name as a clue - and to make matters worse, they are, of course, not in bloom at the moment. Any suggestions would be welcome.

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    Maura, in the not too distant past it would have taken shelves of books and more time than I would be willing to spend to track down these things (hybrids). The only free internet reference I trust is the RHS site. The AOS Orchids Plus software only includes flowers which have received AOS awards, and those are listed basically by their name at the time they were awarded. But it's the only place you can find the award photo. OrchidWiz is by far the best tool for researching genealogy, etc, and will return the current genus name for hybrids.

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    Michael - I suspected as much - hence, my reference to the OED.

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