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Blc Keowee x Myrmecophila splendida

This is a discussion on Blc Keowee x Myrmecophila splendida within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; they are two very similar beee auuuu teeful crosses using two different schomburgkias as parents...

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    they are two very similar beee auuuu teeful crosses using two different schomburgkias as parents

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    Definately going on my 'want it BAD' list! Gorgeous!
    The photos make it hard to see; Angela your flower is perhaps a bit newer as it looks redder (could be photo or angle)? Is the lip a slightly different shape?
    I have a Frances Fox, young plant only bloomed once but I don't remember it being quite as nice.

    Maybe the schom/myr and nodosa catt hybrids tend to be similar as a group? I have a hybrid with Richard Mueller and thomsoniana that looks much the same only smaller in plant and flower, also a young plant though.

    Edit for spelling and sorry had only read the 1st page. I bought mine from a breeder that does a lot of schombo crosses, and the Mueller one really is noticeably smaller- supposed to stay that way too. You raised an off topic question too though Yew- if someone makes a cross using an unregistered hybrid as a parent, can they register the cross they made? I'm not a breeder, just made me wonder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipsxlch View Post
    Maybe the schom/myr and nodosa catt hybrids tend to be similar as a group?
    All the wonderful world of orchids can be classified into 5 great tribes ( see Robert Dresslers work on this some 6 years ago) ; and each tribe ( well, some of them) can be split into sub-tribes or sections, and everything in that sub-tribe or section is more-or less closely related to everything in that sub-tribe etc., and much more distant from everything else. Cattleya, Schombo', Myrmec', Brassavola' and a lot more are all in the Laeliniae sub-tribe ( or is it a Section ? but that's only a taxonomists pedantry) ; whatever, they are all closely related and can be expected to be inter-breedable.
    I know that this kind of chatter is utterly boring to many people ,so I cut it short, but when I put my scientists hat on ( and it is usually on when in the greenhouse) it is fundamental and important - it gives clues to cultural requirements, and hints as to what to expect, etc .
    End of todays lecture - take the dormouse out of the teapot....(Alice in Wonderland)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipsxlch View Post
    Definately going on my 'want it BAD' list! Gorgeous!
    The photos make it hard to see; Angela your flower is perhaps a bit newer as it looks redder (could be photo or angle)? Is the lip a slightly different shape?
    I have a Frances Fox, young plant only bloomed once but I don't remember it being quite as nice.

    Maybe the schom/myr and nodosa catt hybrids tend to be similar as a group? I have a hybrid with Richard Mueller and thomsoniana that looks much the same only smaller in plant and flower, also a young plant though.

    Edit for spelling and sorry had only read the 1st page. I bought mine from a breeder that does a lot of schombo crosses, and the Mueller one really is noticeably smaller- supposed to stay that way too. You raised an off topic question too though Yew- if someone makes a cross using an unregistered hybrid as a parent, can they register the cross they made? I'm not a breeder, just made me wonder.
    Don't know about the registration part, never having ever registered a cross before. What a coincidence that you have 'resurrected' this old post as the plant is blooming at this moment (flowers 3 weeks old) and I measured the flowers - 5 inches across and 4 inches vertically and the lip is 1 3/4 inches at its widest. The colour of the blooms does get lighter after a week (as shown in my pictures).

    As it is blooming now, though a bit past its prime, I have used this opportunity to take a few pictures to show another characteristics of my blooms. The reverse side of the sepals and petals are spotted but these spots do not show on the upper side of the same petals and sepals.
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    What super "hot" colours in this hybrid ! And that lip is quite amazing.
    An orchid to be envied and lusted after !

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    Love the final photo in post 34 Yew Sung! WOW!

    cheers,
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    thanks for the robust discussion and information concerning this plant which has left me totally confused and bewildered I have had this plant for more than eight years, entered in several AOS judged Shows, won several show awards using the name Recchara Frances Fox (Polka Dot x tibicinis). No one has ever challenged that tag and it is registered under that name.
    Please help me with what I should now be tagging this plant.

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    u see all this confusion because of naming !!!!!grrrrrrrrr!!!!some crosses have Myrmecophilia in them and should have a different name "Myrmelaeliocatovola "(aka Recchara)??????? and some crosses have Schomburgkias in them and Schomburgkias are now LAELIAS sooooo therefore would just be a Blc!!!! Because Blc Keomee x LAELIA splendida would stay as a BLC and Blc Keomee x Myrecophilia tibinctis would indeed be ideally Recchara

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    Angela, I would leave your tag as is given the current info- if it ain't broke don't fix it. From what I've seen of them, I'd guess yours really is a Recchara Frances Fox. I think this may just be a case of roughly similar breeding producing very similar results. I'll have to see if I can find a pic of the Mueller hybrid, it really is similar also.

    lol @ Kjeldz yeah makes you wish they'd leave the names alone for horticultural purposes. I wince when I think of trying to retag all mine, so I don't.

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    Wow the color is like rainbow I like it will bring cheerful environment and emotional stability when look the blooms.

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