Dave, all I have to go on is the amount of websites & forums & google show yours as "Sun 16". The "Orchis" pic I posted came from the "Orchis" catalog. The reason I commented was that I've ordered a flask of "Orchis' based on the catalog pic. I like yours but prefer the other for breeding purposes. I'm not sure what to do now. Might have to e-mail Orchis see if they reply with a pic. "Sun 16" appears to be a popular plant whereas "Orchis" appears scarce, as per my pic. I'll keep you posted. For interest sake, do a google search on your plant name in full.