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Cattleya warscewiczii v. sanderiana

This is a discussion on Cattleya warscewiczii v. sanderiana within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Natali, these color breaks on the petals are somewhat disturbing. I had the same thing ...

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    Natali, these color breaks on the petals are somewhat disturbing.
    I had the same thing (less visible) last year with a mossiae. If you can see it this year in bloom, it's a monster and now... into the trash.
    Your warscewiczii tipo is a beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nataliwind View Post
    Thank you everyone! I appreciate your nice words.
    Unfortunately, I have bad news. The plant happened to be virused. I noticed bad looking pattern (spots, color streaks etc.) on petals and tested the plant. Result is ORSV positive. I am shocked. I take good care of my plants and always sterilize pots and cutting instruments etc. I usually check suspicious plants for viruses and keep them separated from my collection. In this case, I did not worry because I bought the plant at the last Redland from a foreign orchid grower. I mean, plants supposed to be healthy and virus-free if they passed customs, are not they? I have no doubt that plant was already infected when I bought it.. too bad it is not always possible to test ANY plant for viruses.
    OK, this Cattleya will go into garbage can.... but I still worry about my other plants and wonder if any of them caught this nasty thing or not. I tested its closest "neighbors" and tests are negative, but who knows... Anyway, I am sad.
    Unfortunately Nat, many of these 'old time' favourites, especially from old collections are virused, an unfortunate legacy from a bygone era when we didn't have much info on viruses - one reason why I'm a bit apprehensive when i obtain plants from old collections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eorchids View Post
    Natali, these color breaks on the petals are somewhat disturbing.
    I had the same thing (less visible) last year with a mossiae. If you can see it this year in bloom, it's a monster and now... into the trash.
    Your warscewiczii tipo is a beauty.
    Thank you Eric!
    Yes, you are right. The pattern is disturbing and the plant goes into the trash how I said. However, I decided to let the flowers open first and take some more pictures. They might be helpful for some orchid lovers.
    I feel better now. Of course I feel sorry for the plant and my efforts, but at least all my other plants I tested today are virus negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    Unfortunately Nat, many of these 'old time' favourites, especially from old collections are virused, an unfortunate legacy from a bygone era when we didn't have much info on viruses - one reason why I'm a bit apprehensive when i obtain plants from old collections.
    Thank you for your message!
    Absolutely agree! When I get such plants I keep them separated from my collection until get them tested for viruses and tests are negative. Sometimes I re-test them in 6 months and only then put them together with my other plants. However, the C. warscewiczii sanderiana was NOT from an old collection and has no clonal name. I bought it at the last Redland Festival. The vendor I purchased my plant from had many of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nataliwind View Post
    Thank you Eric!
    Yes, you are right. The pattern is disturbing and the plant goes into the trash how I said. However, I decided to let the flowers open first and take some more pictures. They might be helpful for some orchid lovers.
    I feel better now. Of course I feel sorry for the plant and my efforts, but at least all my other plants I tested today are virus negative.
    I'm sorry, I focused on your photos and missed your message about ORSV. Bad news.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nataliwind View Post
    .... but I still worry about my other plants and wonder if any of them caught this nasty thing or not. I tested its closest "neighbors" and tests are negative, but who knows... Anyway, I am sad.
    I worry about my plants too. 4 are into the garbage can, just in case...
    I know that my mossiae was virus-free when I got it. But I bought later a Cattleya gaskelliana in Germany which was virused (no doubt with the 1rst blooming). This is the guilty one !

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    Nataliwind, do you have a home test kit for viruses of various kinds? Or is this something you have to send away to have read. I don't have a huge collection (about 100 mostly mini catts) and think a home test kit would be smart. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbaraL View Post
    Nataliwind, do you have a home test kit for viruses of various kinds? Or is this something you have to send away to have read. I don't have a huge collection (about 100 mostly mini catts) and think a home test kit would be smart. Thanks
    Barbara, I am not familiar with home test kits. I use Agdia Immunostrips which identify Cymbidium mosaic virus and Odontoglossum ringspot virus. Many orchid nurseries use this product as far as I know.

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    Thanks Nataliwind, I guess I mainly wanted to know if I could test at home, so that answered my question.

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    Amazing flowers! Congrats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nataliwind View Post
    . I mean, plants supposed to be healthy and virus-free if they passed customs, are not they? .
    I just don't see how customs could check for viruses, since there is often nothing to see. Even if foliage or bulbs have black marks, virus is only one of the several possible explanations. In any case, I have never met a customs officer with any apparent knowledge of plants . All they do is tick the boxes ; is there a permit ? Is it up to date ? Is any import duty payable, and has it been paid ? and so on.
    I am afraid that I have to say that I can count on my fingers ( and toes needed too ) the plants that I have bought even in the last few years, which have not made it very far into my collection ; the Grammatophyllum single bulb diivision which cost $60 (US) and was rotten when I got it home 12 hours later after the London Show last year; the Sobralia species wih dark purple underside to the leaves, which had turned to black on both sides before the leaves all fell off, and the stem started to go soft the day after the London Show this year, and so on....it is all very character forming you know. If I were a buddhist I would know tht in this incarnation the lesson I have to learn is patience and humility in the face of malevolent forces directed at my orchids....

    BTW , according to the latest political news in UK, LOL = Lots of laughs... So, here's LOL to you .

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