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NOID Cattleya

This is a discussion on NOID Cattleya within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Originally Posted by Halloamey Nope not Greenwich, the lip is far too big and frilly ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloamey View Post
    Nope not Greenwich, the lip is far too big and frilly for it considering the two strong doses of granulosa in immediate ancestry. It is either a Rl. digbyana F1 or an offspring of Rl. digbyana F1 with some other Rl. digbyana F1. One plant come to my mind, Rlc. Magic Meadow (Rlc. Memoria Helen Brown x Rl. digbyana) or some hybrid from Rlc. Ports of paradise etc. It will really difficult to ascertain the correct id. since now there are many similar looking and very variable crosses.
    Of course, you're right about it not being too likely that I'll ever get the i.d. for this catt - I thought of Ports of Paradise, too - and meant to check Sea Swirl.

    By the way, what is F1?

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    Filial 1 - pretty much means the first crossing of distinctly different parents

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    Thanks, Amey! I learn so much from you. Would F1 also be considered the first generation of the cross?

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    Yes as Cathy said F1 means the first generation offspring, but it does not have to be distinct parents, even selfings can be termed as F1, F2 etc. So for eg. Cattlianthe chocolate drop is an F1 offspring of both Cattleya guttata and Guarianthe aurantiaca. Now if you crossed it to any other cattleya (except to C. guttata and G. aurantiaca) the resulting offspring will be the F2 generation, even the offspring generated by selfing the said chocolate drop will be F2 generation.

    In case it is crossed to C. guttata or G. aurantiaca, then it is called a Back cross, because it is being crossed back to its parents or at least parental species if not the actual parent plants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloamey View Post
    Yes as Cathy said F1 means the first generation offspring, but it does not have to be distinct parents, even selfings can be termed as F1, F2 etc. So for eg. Cattlianthe chocolate drop is an F1 offspring of both Cattleya guttata and Guarianthe aurantiaca. Now if you crossed it to any other cattleya (except to C. guttata and G. aurantiaca) the resulting offspring will be the F2 generation, even the offspring generated by selfing the said chocolate drop will be F2 generation.

    In case it is crossed to C. guttata or G. aurantiaca, then it is called a Back cross, because it is being crossed back to its parents or at least parental species if not the actual parent plants.
    Got it, Amey - thank you!

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