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Encyclia pygmaea (?)

This is a discussion on Encyclia pygmaea (?) within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Greetings friends. Yesterday as I was watering my orchids I noticed one of my Encyclias ...

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    Greetings friends. Yesterday as I was watering my orchids I noticed one of my Encyclias in flower again. I could have so easily missed it. Here it is- it's pretty in its way... but it is a gangly, straggly, vigorous plant and the flowers are consideranly smaller than my little fingernail. This makes it a curiosity (Actually I am cultivating a weed, God love it!)

    It was sold as Encyclia pseudo-pygmaea... I don't think there is such a designation. By "pseudo-pygmaea" it seems the nursery is trying to say "we thought it was pygmaea, but now we are not really sure". Any thoughts from anyone?


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    The photo was taken by my Dad, using a Macro lens and a small spotlight. He is unsatisfied and wants to try again tomorrow. That's my Dad!

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    baaaaahahahaha you always make me laugh. Great photo. No help with the ID.

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    Igor send best regards to your Dad, your father has different thought and view he.he.he cant help the ID.

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    What a bizar flower. Where does the insect enter and takes out the pollinium (which you can see), and where does it deposites it's package in the next flower?

    But still a great picture, and I am curious how the next photo will turn up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchidmorris View Post
    What a bizar flower. Where does the insect enter and takes out the pollinium (which you can see), and where does it deposites it's package in the next flower?

    But still a great picture, and I am curious how the next photo will turn up.

    Maurice
    Thanks Maurice. Yes, it does look like a very tight squeeze, especially when you take into account how tiny the whole thing is! And of course this is not one of the really small orchids. I have to admit I usually avoid trying to figure out the mechanics of the interaction between an orchid flower and its pollinator- it always seems just too tricky to imagine: even seeing slow-motion film of it happening leaves me no wiser!

    Funny though, when the set-up is exceptionally elaborate (like in a bucket-orchid) it is easier to see what is going on when you watch the show!..
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    Encyclia pseudopygmaea (no hyphen) is actually a published name (Encyclia pseudopygmaea (Finet) Dressler & G.E. Pollard 1974), but appears to be considered a synonym For Encyclia pygmaea. Kew/RHS uses Prosthechea pygmaea rather than Encyclia, or you may also see it as Hormidium pygmaea. It appears to be quite a variable species in both appearance of the flower and the plant habit and size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaphMadMan View Post
    Encyclia pseudopygmaea (no hyphen) is actually a published name (Encyclia pseudopygmaea (Finet) Dressler & G.E. Pollard 1974), but appears to be considered a synonym For Encyclia pygmaea. Kew/RHS uses Prosthechea pygmaea rather than Encyclia, or you may also see it as Hormidium pygmaea. It appears to be quite a variable species in both appearance of the flower and the plant habit and size.
    Thanks for that, Kirk! (I think you guys are first-class.) The thing is- I just could not find the name in that form, so it is great to have "chapter and verse" at last... ironically, this is now the best-documented orchid in my collection!

    Yes... over here they are very hot on "Prosthec(h)ea". That h really upsets me, so I have bracketed it! It is an outrage that the official spelling is nonsense: Prosthecea or Prosthekea would both be OK but Prosthechea just doesn't mean anything. The word in question is 'theke' meaning trunk, box, or receptacle. 'Theche' isn't a word. How did this happen? (I am a classicist, and it is just not possible to switch off- unfortunately! Ancient Greek is MY territory, so I am very protective: it is dead, so I will have it treated with decency!)

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    (PS- it would HAVE to be Hormidium pygmaeum.)

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    Pindar, i thought we had settled that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    Pindar, i thought we had settled that
    Hi Katherine. Well: your comment is meant as a kind of slap, isn't it? I assume you refer to gender termination agreement? That has indeed been "settled" for tens of thousands of years: it is a central feature of Indo-European languages, not just Latin; and it is an exotic little quirk of English that it has wholly evolved away from grammatic gender. I was responding to the immediately preceding two Posts where Hormidium pygmaea made an appearance.

    Just doing my duty: if the error is not corrected each time, who is to blame if it persists among us. Even official publications are now becoming full of such errors- this is a new development I never thought I would see... in this light it is plain wrong for me, a classical scholar, to say nothing. Every time I see an error, I shall post a brief correction. It may work. (Of course I may be blocked from the forum if I manage to offend too many people.) Personally, I welcome correction when I am mistaken. This forum is collaborative, after all- not competitive.

    If a physician gives information about a medical matter- if an electrician advises about wiring- or a chef about cooking, we are grateful for their professional help. All my life I have found, bizarrely, that outside the classroom and lecture hall it is socially awkward for a classicist to allude to his sphere of expertise. We avoid doing so because for some reason knowledge of Greek and Latin causes resentment. Odd, that.

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