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Bc Star Trek 'Orange'

This is a discussion on Bc Star Trek 'Orange' within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Great shots. Give the orchid a few more days and the colour should intensify....

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    Great shots. Give the orchid a few more days and the colour should intensify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    Great shots. Give the orchid a few more days and the colour should intensify.
    Really? I always thought flowers were at their most intense when they first opened, and then faded from there. I will keep a close eye on these flowers and see what happens to the color!

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    "The blooms have been open for about 48 hours now, so theoretically they should be at their most bold color, right? "
    Oh no, Jenn. You are in too much of a hurry. Colour can go on developing and changing for much longer than that. A Catt I showed here a month or two ago started off as a glorious yellow , but after a week it was a startling slightly dark orange colour. If the flowers last 4 weeks , which I would expect , especially when you say waxy , then maybe the colour is "best" ( whatever that means ? ) after 2 weeks....
    But give the vendor a break ; to see it at its proper best you have to grow the thing. Flowers that small seem unlikely to be correct for any catt' that I can think of, and when settled down and flowering more naturally, it may well look quite different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetman View Post
    "The blooms have been open for about 48 hours now, so theoretically they should be at their most bold color, right? "
    Oh no, Jenn. You are in too much of a hurry. Colour can go on developing and changing for much longer than that. A Catt I showed here a month or two ago started off as a glorious yellow , but after a week it was a startling slightly dark orange colour. If the flowers last 4 weeks , which I would expect , especially when you say waxy , then maybe the colour is "best" ( whatever that means ? ) after 2 weeks....
    Hahaa!

    Well, thanks for setting me straight, Geoff! I learn something new every day! Most of my outdoor flowering plants look best when they first open, and then they start to fade after that, so I guess I was just expecting the same of my orchids! (For example, my daffodils had beautiful pink centers a week ago when they first opened, but now the centers have faded to a barely-noticeable creamy peach). I just assumed all flowers fade as they age.

    But give the vendor a break ; to see it at its proper best you have to grow the thing. Flowers that small seem unlikely to be correct for any catt' that I can think of, and when settled down and flowering more naturally, it may well look quite different.
    Okay... well, then I will wait with great anticipation to see what the color turns into on these flowers! And I will cut the vendor a break... as I said before, this nursery has never sent me a bad plant; all of their plants have been outstanding. I'm somewhat of a newbie with Catts anyway, so I have a lot to learn about how they behave under different conditions! At any rate, I'm a bit more optimistic now. I will wait to see how it does after its next flowering. I did think the flowers seemed unusually tiny for a Catt... even for a mini!

    Thanks for the encouragement! I needed it!

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    Of all the orchids I grow, catts are the most difficult for me - and the most worthwhile too. And no, its not just a matter of the satisfaction of conquering the difficult - catasetums seem very nearly as difficult but , whilst more interesting when flowering,(?) less joyous too.

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    There's a lot of good information on this thread. I have several cattleyas with colors that are dependent on the temperature. They bloom one color in cooler weather and a different shade of color in warm weather. I also have a couple cattleyas that take a week or so to fully develop their color. I wouldn't give up on this plant so quickly, Jenn. Some of the mini-catts can have other good qualities like frequent blooming or large numbers of flowers when they get larger. I have one little cattleya that I didn't like initially but it grew into a large plant and it blooms 3-4 times a year with up to 8 flowers per spike. It's now one of my favorites. If you have enough space, I would recommend giving the plant another year before deciding to get rid of it or not. Good luck.

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    Very interesting info in this thread but many factors that influences the color base on my observation especially light, temperature fertilizer, the color is more intense in cooler atmosphere as compared to hot weather whatever it is a nice catt Jenn.

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    If you do a Bing image search for Bc. Star Trek the first 2 images show flowers that look like C. intermedia x B. perrinii should look, pink/pale lavendar/white with obvious brasso influenced shape. A Google search does not show the same images. You can't get flowers of the shape and color of your photos from those parents. You just can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaphMadMan View Post
    If you do a Bing image search for Bc. Star Trek the first 2 images show flowers that look like C. intermedia x B. perrinii should look, pink/pale lavendar/white with obvious brasso influenced shape. A Google search does not show the same images. You can't get flowers of the shape and color of your photos from those parents. You just can't.
    Huh... well, now I'm really confused. I was searching through 'Bing,' and I came across another website that is selling that same plant (or at least using the same photo as the other site), and they are calling it Lc Star Trek 'Orange,' not Bc Star Trek 'Orange.' Again, it's that SAME bright reddish-orange photo being used.

    Kirk, do you have OrchidWiz? If not, could someone with OrchidWiz look up this plant and tell me which is correct, the "Bc" or the "Lc," and what the parents are for sure? There seems to be some confusion on the web about the name of this plant. And if the WEB is confused, well, I'm downright befuddled over here. I have no idea what this plant is really supposed to look like... I just know it doesn't look like the photo I was given.

    Thanks, friends! I would really like to know what this plant really is!! And if it's an Lc and not a Bc, that would explain why it isn't showing the Brasso influence at all in its shape.

    Meanwhile, I'm watching the color to see what it does... I'll keep you posted! Maybe one day I'll come downstairs and find it's turned day-glo orange!

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    Brassocattleya (Bc.) Star Trek = C. intermedia x B. perrinii, from both OrchidWiz and the International Orchid Register. There is no way to get an orange flower that doesn't look brasso-star shape from that cross. There is no other grex in the Cattleya Alliance called Star Trek, so there is no Lc. Star Trek.

    Just speculating here... There is a Slc. (or Ctt.) Star Ship (Rajah's Ruby x Chit Chat) that could have an appearance similar to your plant.

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