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Lc Netrasiri Faiball x Thihty 'Casen's choice'

This is a discussion on Lc Netrasiri Faiball x Thihty 'Casen's choice' within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; I concur with Coeruleo that this hybrid could have originated from Thailand .......Lc Netrasiri Fireball ...

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    I concur with Coeruleo that this hybrid could have originated from Thailand .......Lc Netrasiri Fireball is a well-known stud plant in Thailand and I have the 'Napporn' clone shown by Jenn. There is also a Potinara Thitti, which I'm not familiar with and the clonal name could be ' Kasem's Choice' as in Kasem Boonchu, a very well-known Thai breeder.

    As to 'porn' the Thai pronunciation is different from your 'porn' as in smut, but pronounced with plosive 'p' and sounds something between 'on' and 'own'.

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    Sending you a pm with a link I think might help with this - not too much to add after Yew, of course, had it all figured out already.

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    Beautiful colors! I would definitely love to get one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    I concur with Coeruleo that this hybrid could have originated from Thailand .......Lc Netrasiri Fireball is a well-known stud plant in Thailand and I have the 'Napporn' clone shown by Jenn. There is also a Potinara Thitti, which I'm not familiar with and the clonal name could be ' Kasem's Choice' as in Kasem Boonchu, a very well-known Thai breeder.
    Thanks!!! I went on a bit of an internet search to see if I could figure this one out after getting your info! I started by searching for "Kasem," and that took me to a Thai nursery which had a lot of crosses listed as Lc. Thiti x ( ). There were no pictures of the Lc. Thiti on that site, though, so I then did a general Google search for a Cattleya alliance plant named "Thiti," and I found the Potinara Thiti, which appears to have several clones available.

    Here's a pic of one of them:

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    Oh, and it would be worth mentioning that in every online instance, I saw the name spelled as "Thiti," not "Thitti." So it could definitely be conceivable that this was the second plant used in my cross... just spelled really poorly (although phonetically I can see how it would be easy for someone to confuse 'Thiti' with 'Thihty.'

    Would someone with OrchidWiz be willing to look up the Potinara Thiti to see if there are any registered cultivars with the name 'Kasem' in them? Or if there are any spotted clones?

    It would definitely seem possible that the deep mauve, waxy Netrasiri paired with the bright yellow Thiti could give that amazing orange color... but I'm wondering about the spots. Can one get a spotty orchid from two mostly solid-colored ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    As to 'porn' the Thai pronunciation is different from your 'porn' as in smut, but pronounced with plosive 'p' and sounds something between 'on' and 'own'.
    I think this thread has won the award for the number of times the word "porn" has been used in an orchid conversation! LOL There will definitely be some disappointed Googlers who are looking for smut and finding only Cattleyas.... hehee!!

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    I can tell you there is no Thiti or Thitti registered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron-NY View Post
    I can tell you there is no Thiti or Thitti registered
    Well now I'm just really confused! LOL There are well-known, American nurseries selling cultivars of Potinara Thiti. I just did a Google search for Potinara Thiti and one of the first nurseries that popped up was an extremely well-known and respected orchid nursery here in the states. Here's what they have to say about their plant:

    Potinara Thiti 'Chanchai Gold'

    Solid gold! This brilliant yellow mini-cattleya is a temperature tolerant wonder. We grow it outside with our cymbidiuims, but it can take the heat as well. Temperature Tolerant.


    So, can nurseries just go around selling unregistered plants with clonal names and everything? The copyright on the pictures this nursery has of their Thiti say 2013 on them. Is their any way this could just be such a new plant that it hasn't shown up yet on the orchid registry or in Orchid Wiz?

    I'm absolutely baffled....

    I definitely appreciate everyone's input, though!! I wouldn't obsess over this so much if I wasn't so interested in possibly showing this plant at some point. It's such a looker!!

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    Jenn - I have found out in the past that, particularly with the big nurseries that do a lot of meristemming and the like, theywill have a patent pending or something to protect the name, but, if they don't think the cross is really awardable, no matter how useful it is, they don't bother with registration. I've run into a number of the big Hawaiian nurseries, as well as some from Thailand that simply name their hybrids something indicating the nursery's identity - and then register it if it ever seems worth it to them. Of course, in order to register it, they'd have to know the parents, right? And perhaps they don't in this case?

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    There is a Paph Thiti but nothing else. There are times venders purchase from big nurseries and this is how the name perpetuates.
    By the way the tag is done, it is a seedling cross, not a meristem. It still may be a situation with a misprint label form a nursery.

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    I came across a post on another forum where someone was trying to ID the parents of his cross that looks identical to yours. His tag said Natrasiri Classtar...It was suggested that it may be Netrasiri Darkstar which is
    Netrasiri Fireball x C Landate...that cross would explain the color and spotting of your Catt hybrid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron-NY View Post
    I came across a post on another forum where someone was trying to ID the parents of his cross that looks identical to yours. His tag said Natrasiri Classtar...It was suggested that it may be Netrasiri Darkstar which is
    Netrasiri Fireball x C Landate...that cross would explain the color and spotting of your Catt hybrid
    Okay, okay - the rest of us are on our knees, giving homage to the god of information. You are amazing - why couldn't you id my orange auriantica-like Catt. - hmm?

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