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Vanda Blue Magic

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    Lightbulb Vanda Blue Magic

    Vanda 'I am Not so Blue' Magic

    Well the positive is that I can now officially say that I have successfully re-flowered a Vanda.

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    *Vanda Blue Magic;
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    -7-14 day period for immersion feeding/watering
    -Air ventilation provided.
    -The UK has experienced a very warm summer in comparison to recent years.

    I keep a journal of what I do with regards to my orchid collection on a daily basis. My first entry with V. Blue Magic being in spike was written on the 13th August. On the 20th August the spike was 8.4cm. Therefore it must have initiated the spike atleast 10-14 days before the 13th (I was stupid enough not to write the date down when I first noticed it )

    Anyway, after 6+ weeks a bud finally opened today . (There were initially 6 buds, 1 went yellow early so I removed it - it looks like 2 more will go that way too...)

    This is the result:
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    As one can see, the flower is not normal. It is not blue for a start. However, it definitely should be blue because this is what it looked like when I purchased it:
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    A whole world of difference...

    And it had NOT been dyed blue, I acquired it from a very reputable nursery (one can see just by close examination, that the blue is real). Therefore the orchid has expressed its phenotype in a different way this time. The flower has changed due to the conditions that the plant has been subjected to.

    The one condition that I could not control even slightly was the ambient natural light. The good summer was enough to encourage the Vanda to initiate a spike, however due to the orchid's slow rate at sending up the spike and the lengthening nights..It has not received enough light to fully express its genotype. (Well that is my theory - a botanist would probably run more 'tests' to qualify this assumption).

    I may invest in a light to aid flowering. However, I will continue to look after my Vandas in the best way that I can; until the time comes that I can transpose them into an area with optimal conditions.

    In any case, I will collect the pollen. Its genetic sequence should still be the same.

    K.
    Last edited by Mararda; October 1st, 2013 at 06:22 PM.

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    Very informative post. I'm also trying to grow vanda alliance plants hanging in a window but didn't have any luck getting them to flower. Added lamps to supplement lighting but I'm guessing too little too late. Your results encourage me that it can be done, we just need to work out the specifics.
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    you got it to bloom so congratulations, I think you could be right about the light, a lot of vandas blooms get larger and more colorful as they open.

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    Congratulations this is the beginning just to motivate you believe me next season it will do better for you.

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    I will qualify my post with...this is my two cents and I could be wrong but here goes. I have two panels of led lights that are to be used as additional red and blue wavelengths to use during our winters when I kept the orchids in the garage with a single window facing North. It worked quite well. If I were you I would invest in a low cost led panel and see what the added color wavelenths would do for your vandas growth and blooming. I used my credit card points to get my panels for free. I hope someone will add on this subject if they have also used the led panels during the winter...and i'm guessing it wouldn't hurt with your summers being so cloudy as well, to have them on in the summertime during weeks of rain that limit your plants sunshine exposure.

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    Increasing the light and regular watering should help with the next blooming.

    cheers,
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    The vanda Blue Magic i had flowered really well under HPS lighting but have not used LED panels so cannot help there but any additional light has got to be better than the dungeon like winters we get normally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stateless View Post
    you got it to bloom so congratulations, I think you could be right about the light, a lot of vandas blooms get larger and more colorful as they open.
    Thank you Ed. It is a bit bigger today, and there is slightly more blue in the petals too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf71758 View Post
    Very informative post. I'm also trying to grow vanda alliance plants hanging in a window but didn't have any luck getting them to flower. Added lamps to supplement lighting but I'm guessing too little too late. Your results encourage me that it can be done, we just need to work out the specifics.
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    Thank you for the compliment Bob Hydzik,

    I am glad that is has helped you. Indeed, getting the lighting right is a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zainal abidin View Post
    Congratulations this is the beginning just to motivate you believe me next season it will do better for you.
    Thank you. I sincerely hope so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cjcorner View Post
    I will qualify my post with...this is my two cents and I could be wrong but here goes. I have two panels of led lights that are to be used as additional red and blue wavelengths to use during our winters when I kept the orchids in the garage with a single window facing North. It worked quite well. If I were you I would invest in a low cost led panel and see what the added color wavelenths would do for your vandas growth and blooming. I used my credit card points to get my panels for free. I hope someone will add on this subject if they have also used the led panels during the winter...and i'm guessing it wouldn't hurt with your summers being so cloudy as well, to have them on in the summertime during weeks of rain that limit your plants sunshine exposure.
    Thank you very kindly for the advice, Connie. I have been browsing various lights and lamps. I cannot currently afford a large ballast though, and I can only go up to 250W to be honest...But eco lights and basic sodium lamps may work for my situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutal_Dreamer View Post
    Increasing the light and regular watering should help with the next blooming.

    cheers,
    BD
    Thank you Bruce Brown.

    I do want a more regular watering schedule, but since discovering signs of rot I have refreshed the medium of two of my Vandas and increased aeration to the roots. I will do the same for this one when it has finished its fantastic flowers (lol), and then re-do the schedule. I am currently watering via immersion when the roots have turned a creamy hue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSteve View Post
    The vanda Blue Magic i had flowered really well under HPS lighting but have not used LED panels so cannot help there but any additional light has got to be better than the dungeon like winters we get normally.
    Hi Steve,

    Indeed, our winters are grim. It is rather depressing how the nights are drawing in so fast!

    I have been looking at different lights and lamps.

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    Let there be light....and more light.... even here in the tropics, these vandas appreciate very high levels of light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angel View Post
    Let there be light....and more light.... even here in the tropics, these vandas appreciate very high levels of light.
    I agree, that is the main limiting factor for me...

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