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Need help with ID for these beautiful dendrobiums and oncidium

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    Default Need help with ID for these beautiful dendrobiums and oncidium

    I went to the Vizcaya Museum and Gardens today there were some beautiful plants in their orchidarium. I was drawn to these two dendrobiums and the yellow oncidium-type but there were no ID tags. Any idea what they may be?

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    The first one looks like an Epidendrum pseudepidendrum.

    The second one looks like a Den parishii. Does it smell like raspberries?

    The third one ??? Oncidium hybrid.

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    I think the second one is Den. bracteosum.

    Third looks like an oncidium type?

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    I am inclined to agree with the Epi naming, except that the two examples of that species I have grown have had a rather more contrasting lip colour. Also, there is a hybrid - i think it is Rene Marqueza , which is a dead ringer, and that is slightly variable in colour. Check them out - orchidwiz for the hybrid, and IOSPE for the species.
    D, bracteosum ? Again I have two plants, but neither has yet flowered, consequently only have youngish canes, but they don't look quite like this. May be just a matter of their age.
    As to the Oncidium hybrid, well, Oncidium in the broader sense, yes, but I don't know of anyone like this, and if anyone can give me the name I will put it at the top of my wish list - and btw I have several hundred Onc. Species and hybrids in my collection, so know just a little bit about them.

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    I always think of Oncidium in the broader sense Geoff. There are so many hybrids out there. At our recent local orchid show one vendor had well over 100. The one pictured (if it is) is lovely. The Den. is very closley related if it is not bracteosum. The flowers are not as open as mine but that could be just variation or culture.

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    I think the 2nd picture is Dendrobium purpureum

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksriramkumar View Post
    I think the 2nd picture is Dendrobium purpureum
    I do believe you are correct Sriram.

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    I concur with Sriram.

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    The first is an Epidendrum, as already noted. The similarity to the well known Epi pseudepidendrum is clear, and it is a more variable species in color and form than most people realize. It could be that species, but there are actually a dozen or so closely related species as well as some hybrids within genus Epidendrum that could look very similar - Epi. Butterpatty for instance (pseudepidendrum x paniculatum). It does not appear to be any kind of intergeneric hybrid though, like Epc. Rene Marques.

    The Oncidium type is hard to pin down because of the lack of color in an alba type, plus the overexposure and focus problems. Still, I think it is likely to be an Oncostele type hybrid from Rhycostele bictoniensis f. alba ancestry.

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