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Vanda ( Neofinetia) falcata - three versions of this species

This is a discussion on Vanda ( Neofinetia) falcata - three versions of this species within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; I have four plants of this species, all different - three of them shown here. ...

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    I have four plants of this species, all different - three of them shown here. The fourth is the largest, in an 8 inch basket, lots of spikes, but a little later than these, and I'll wait until a lot more flowers are open before posting.
    The three here, first the biggest plant , in a 6 inch basket, is of the so-called bean-curd type. With short wide leaves, and rather smaller flowers of a slightly different type, too. Much less of a spur.
    the second one ( all three have Japanese names, but my labels showing those are now lost ) is supposedly a pink form. Just about pink, in a good light. But a very sweet perfume.
    The third is the lime green form, much more distinct, and perhaps my favourite.
    The second and third plants here are in 3 inch pots.

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    Those are all lovely and healthy plants. Perhaps, I can suggest their Romanji/kanji names?

    First plant I propose would be Tamakongou 玉金剛. This is called "Mame-ba" or bean leaf. Flowers are smaller than other regular Neofinetia. Their flowers are "Heaven facing".

    The second plant looks like Shutennou 朱天王. Shutennou is a plant that most every one who collect Neos, would want because of its colorful flowers. It is also a large growing and vigorous plant.

    The third plant, is probably Hisui 翡翠. This is another colorful flower--green.

    Do these suggestions ring any bells?

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    Thank you Matt. At least one of your suggestions does ring bells. My understanding is that there are very many named varieties in Japan, and many of them are duplicates, i.e. You can get two extremely similar plants which their owners will argue are sufficiently different to have different names. But I'll add your names to my plant tags.

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    All are beautiful but I favour the 1st one because of the density of the growth and pristine white flowers Super little plant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris in Hamilton View Post
    All are beautiful but I favour the 1st one because of the density of the growth and pristine white flowers Super little plant!
    I have read that the bean leaf Neo's do grow more densely as a trait of that type leaf and kabudachi's. But I will say that I have some pretty tightly packed pine needle type kabudachi's as well. My Amani Island is like that.

    I just ordered a Neo falcata 'Seikai' 青海. It should arrive this coming week I hope!

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    Very beautiful but I like the fragrance ....so nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 78Terp View Post
    I have read that the bean leaf Neo's do grow more densely as a trait of that type leaf and kabudachi's. But I will say that I have some pretty tightly packed pine needle type kabudachi's as well. My Amani Island is like that.

    I just ordered a Neo falcata 'Seikai' 青海. It should arrive this coming week I hope!
    I like your use of the word "kabudachi" to name the side growths that the main plant developes, over time. Other collectors call them "fans" or "keiki". The tightness of the growth of mame-ba, and needle leaf Furan, is an appealing feature of these varieties. Seikai is another appealing bean leaf plant. It grows slower than some of the larger leafed beans, like the Tomakongo. Because of this tight growing habit, Seikai has a propensity to loose leaves to stem or crown rot. The stem, otherwise known as "jiku" and the leaf attachment "tsuke" are so close that the moisture gets locked in and if not dried quickly can develop rot. I remedy that problem by running fresh air in and around the plant.

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    Thanks I'll keep an eye out for that. We are so dry here that while not unheard of here, crown rot is less likely due to that low humidity.

    I learned kabudachi from the grower in Japan I bought my Tomakongo from. I do prefer using proper terms so thanks for jiku and tsuke!

    I've been scratching that orchid itch with Neo's lately. I think I am up to 14 now, including hybrids.

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    All are real beauties!

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