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C. Iwanagara Appleblossom

This is a discussion on C. Iwanagara Appleblossom within the Cattleyas, Vandas, Dendrobiums IN BLOOM forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; I almost bought one at an orchid show this weekend. [As it is I spent ...

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    I almost bought one at an orchid show this weekend. [As it is I spent waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than I had intended to on other plants.] Had one several years back but then it croaked. [It was a bit on the large size considering my space restrictions.] It is one of those that -- when that day comes & I buy a replacement -- I'll have to see in person first. There is a bit of color variation and the yellower ones don't appeal to me. I prefer the ones more like the one you picked up, Kerry.

    Oh btw, Kerry, the "C." can be dropped from the name. It is simple Iwanagara Appleblossum.

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    Pavel is right Iwanagara = Brassavola x Cattleya x Diacrium x Laelia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Pavel is right Iwanagara = Brassavola x Cattleya x Diacrium x Laelia
    Huh....I didn't know that! Wish I still didn't, cause that means I could probably keep one of these pretty happy. Darn it.

    *muttering about enablers!*

    LOL

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    Red face Brassavola x Cattleya x Diacrium x Laelia?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Pavel is right Iwanagara = Brassavola x Cattleya x Diacrium x Laelia
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    Huh....I didn't know that! Wish I still didn't, cause that means I could probably keep one of these pretty happy. Darn it.

    *muttering about enablers!*

    LOL
    Would someone care to explain? I get very confused about these cross thingamyjigs. Does the Brassavola x Cattleya x Diacrium x Laelia cross mean that it is easier to look after and less particular in it's needs? I have started looking this girl up on the internet, but haven't got very far yet apart from comparing pictures (sad but true) and yes, Pavel, I do like mine more because of it purpleish tinge to the edge of the flowers.

    Anyway, if someone could point out what sort of attributes the crossing brings to the plant, I'd appreciate it. At the moment it has been placed on my kitchen windowsill which faces sort of South West so is getting weak direct sun for a couple of hours in the evening, but bright indirect light for the majority of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry View Post
    Would someone care to explain? I get very confused about these cross thingamyjigs. Does the Brassavola x Cattleya x Diacrium x Laelia cross mean that it is easier to look after and less particular in it's needs?
    Hey Kerry,

    I'm sure there are others FAR more qualified to answer this...but the reason I thought, "huh, guess I need and can grow one of those" after finding out what they're "made" of is that I can grow Catts, Laelia's, and Brassavolas quite easily in my conditions...I don't know anything about Diacrium.

    Hope this helps a little, and hope others will chime in as well!

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    Lynda, your Iwanagara Appleblossom is "awesome". Quite a specimen! It looks like you got the touch.

    Kerry,
    Actually this plant was made by crossing a Blc (a hybrid with brassavola, cattleya and Laelia in its genetic heritage) with the Diacrium (a cattleya alliance species), I think. The reason to do that is to create new flower shape, smaller size plants, as well as making the plants more tolerable to different growing conditions (like house growing conditions, etc...). I think you will do well with it. Just treat it just like a cattleya, water then let the roots dried out, fertilize once a week very weakly, lot of filtered light, it can get by with less light, actually!
    Cheers. Hoa.

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    Default question from Novice re Cattleya Apple Blossom

    I have just picked up my 2nd orchid, i figure to learn by doing. i selected this one because i thought the bloom was so lovely.
    i know about letting it dry out between waterings.
    i know about feeding it weakly weekly.
    i suppose you have to keep them warm and humidity is appreciated also.
    beyond that, i do not know.

    what im wondering about most immeadiately is this...
    [please forgive my improper terminology, hope you get what im meaning to say]
    the plant i have consists of 5 'stems', sort of elongated bulbous at the bottom, with leaves and flower spikes out the top.
    with 3 of the 5, the flower spike has apparently been cut, pretty much right at its base close to the leaves.

    - it does not look like these will send out another spike, am i correct?
    - but they only removed the flower spike, not the whole 'stem', why is that?
    - do i need to cut the spike too after it has played out? how will i know when to do this?
    - when i got this, it was Extreemly pot-bound - do orchids like that? [most i have looked at seem to be in very small pots]. i have repotted it [with bark and pumice and river rock] in a much larget vessel, was that a mistake?

    thank you for any advice. i enjoy chatting with enthusiasts more than looking it up myself when possible. i look fwd to learning more about caring for these remarkable beings.

    ciao'
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    Quote Originally Posted by jivasan View Post
    the plant i have consists of 5 'stems', sort of elongated bulbous at the bottom, with leaves and flower spikes out the top.
    with 3 of the 5, the flower spike has apparently been cut, pretty much right at its base close to the leaves.

    - it does not look like these will send out another spike, am i correct?
    - but they only removed the flower spike, not the whole 'stem', why is that?
    - do i need to cut the spike too after it has played out? how will i know when to do this?
    - when i got this, it was Extreemly pot-bound - do orchids like that? [most i have looked at seem to be in very small pots]. i have repotted it [with bark and pumice and river rock] in a much larget vessel, was that a mistake?
    Hi Jivasen, and welcome to our forum! It's good you spoke up and asked your questions - we're all here to learn from each other!

    The 'stems' are referred to as growths. If they're fat at the bottom, those are called pseudobulbs (sometimes shortened to p-bulbs), and the leaves grow out of those. For many type of orchids, they'll only bloom once on a new growth. Subsequent blooms will come from next year's growths.

    But we'd need to know what type of plant you have, to be sure. Many orchid genera (plural of genus, which is the type of orchid you have) are very different in their growth habit. Does you plant have a tag? If not, can you post a picture of it?

    If your plant is blooming, wait until the flowers die, and then you can cut the spike back, as the previous ones have been cut. Never cut green, healthy growths. They'll supply the plant with more energy for next year's blooms.

    Orchids like to be just fitting a new pot. If you repot into a larger pot, so that the roots aren't barely snug against the pot wall, the plant will stall. It will put energy into new root growth and it might be two or more years before it reblooms for you. That's called "overpotting". If it's blooming, let it finish, and then repot it into a slightly larger pot. Always move to a slightly larger size. Your orchid will thank you for that!

    Happy growing!

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    Julie~
    nice to hear back so quickly, thank you...
    My plant is a Cattleya Apple Blossom, so says the tag. more than that i do not know.

    so, each year will bring new Growths, each with a single flower stalk? and we always cut the stalk, and leave the growths [even if the leaves are all gnarley?]

    i repotted it just last night [yes it is blooming, tho the 3 actual flowers it had when purchased have died off], in a much larger pot. would you reccommend i backtrack and repot again, or leave it be as is?

    thanks again,
    jivasan

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    If the flowers are done blooming, then go ahead and repot into the correct sized pot. It's best to wait till the flowers are done, because repotting can shock the plant a bit and it might abort its flowers prematurely. Waiting until it's finished blooming isn't a problem.

    Make sure the pot has good drainage and that you're using a medium coarse potting mix. Orchid roots need both moisture and air! That's why they're not potted in dirt. A medium orchid mix allows good air flow, and the bark will retain some moisture.

    The flower stalk is called the flower spike, but yes, you have it - leave the growths intact. No matter how gnarly, as long as they're green and not brown. Green growth will provide photosynthesis and energy to the plant, and allow it to grow even bigger and stronger (which supports better blooms the following year.)

    Your plant will want good light. Let the roots dry out between waterings (you'll need to learn how to judge that), but not dry out too much. (Perhaps water once every 5-7 days). Fertilize every week or two at 1/4 the recommended fertilizer strength, and your plant should love you!

    Julie

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