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Venting (a little) re: New Paph

This is a discussion on Venting (a little) re: New Paph within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; [drum drum drum] [ahem] My new paph came today, packed just beautifully. And when I ...

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    Default Venting (a little) re: New Paph

    [drum drum drum] [ahem]

    My new paph came today, packed just beautifully. And when I got it UNpacked there was a fairly nice looking medium-large seedling (small plant, but large seedling for the species) all wobbly in a 4-1/2" standard pot full of terrestrial bark mix.

    So I unpotted the thing and found all of four roots. One of them was partly rotted, the others hard and dark and of questionable health, and those drowning in all this mix with minimum drainage. The longest of the four roots was about 2-1/2" (remember - 4-1/2" standard pot).

    There was a note on the sales slip - 'Plant was repotted within the last two months.'

    Well thank God it wasn't any longer than that!

    [Sigh] Luckily I had one of those skinny rose pots I got from Antec and luckily the mix was in good shape. So now it's potted up in about 1/6 of the total mix it came in, firm and staked.

    What I'm wondering is what were they THINKING!?

    John ( )

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    If i were you, I would tell the vendor that this plant is unacceptable. A honest vendor will rectify the situation; an unscrupulous one may tell you to get lost. It's up to the customer to tell others which vendors one should feel confident in dealing with, and which to avoid.

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    I agree with Jmoney. If you do not contact the vendor, the same thing could continue to happen. Do everyone who buys orchids through the mail a favor and let the vendor know. Hey, they will probably send you a replacement. If not, then you know not to spend you money with them again!


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    Well, they might be successful in that medium and as you know with Paphs, the plant can look good and the roots can be gone. You should tell them about the root condition as they don't know since it was sent in a pot. I have no idea what size plant your ordered. Was it supposed to be BS?

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    I will contact the vendor. I wanted to cool off a little first. My rule.

    I don't know how they wouldn't know - if the plant was repotted during the last two months, it would have been even LESS appropriate for that size pot, assuming it has grown at all in the meantime.

    It's not a question of the medium- which I think is actually pretty nice. But who wouldn't agree that it is inappropriate to put a fairly small paph with four 2" roots (healthy or not) in a 4.5" plastic standard pot with practically no drainage? And poorly potted at that.

    It is around 18 cm - a Paph venustum. It was supposed to be 20+ cm for $30. Close enough, I guess. The person I spoke to suggested that it was close to blooming, but according to Braem, large venustums can reach around 45cm - but that is a large for the species. I am unclear how large they must be before bloom can be reasonably expected.

    I think it will be ok with some tlc. Hopefully get some roots out before winter. I will contract the vendor, voice my concerns about the plant. But I do not send plants back as a rule. More inconvenience while risking just getting another P**-poor plant.

    I will keep you posted as to the progress, and if I feel that reasonable satisfaction is not forthcoming, I will post the name of the vendor.

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    NFS=No flowers stupid.

    Well that,s what it seems like to me.
    I,ve got a Paph Venustum be delivered tomoze but while i was looking for 1
    a nursery was selling 1 with 10cm LS as NFS
    So 18cm must be specimen size.
    Just have to wait until tomoze to see what i get.

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    Uncasteeb, pls keep me posted on your new Paph venustum.

    In all fairness, I spread the leaves just a little to get a more accurate measure and mine is 20cm.

    Time will tell, if it doesn't decide to turn up its little toes altogether.

    John

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    Individual clones vary a great deal, but venustum can bloom on plants as small as 6-7" across. Mature plants probably run closer to 10-12". 45 cm is 18". That would be a very big venustum, i.e. a specimen plant.

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    Well mine has arrived .

    Multi-growth but it,s the smallest Paph i,ve seen but there is @ least 2 old spikes on the plant.
    The 20" Paph Roth is actually 26"+
    Paph Lowii is pretty small but it was only advertised as a seedling.
    The best thing is i got a bonus plant.
    It,s a Paph Supardi & it,s 24" + LS .What a bonus.I spent about $300 & the bonus plant is listed as over $100.Note i bought other plants as well as the Paphs.
    Piccies later if i don,t drink to much.

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    I received a roth cross from Chesterfield in the spring. Beautiful plant in brandnew potting mix with absolutely no roots. They asked for it backafter I complained, refunded the purchase price plus my shipping as well as their's. The other plants I received at the same time were also unacceptable, so they got them back.

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