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    I'm in amazement right now. My phal I purchaced for 4 dollars last year flowered itself to death, literally. I cut the spike off(which was flowered) in hopes of saving the plant. Needless to say, the plant still bit the dust, but no hard feelings since I *only* paid 4 bucks. I have had the spike in a bud vase for over a month now (stuck in a shady corner), and the flowers are slowly falling off. I picked up the vase to pull off some other dead flowers, and the silly spike is putting out more buds!!! How can this be? Could the spot I put it in possibally be a good spot for a phal? Could my ultra sunny house actually have a corner that I could have a phal and not scorch it?

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    Phal spikes will last quite a while once they're cut. New buds may keep "developing" but, it's been my experience that these will usually just blast after they reach any size.

    Why don't you try stem-propping it? Cut the spike again one node up from where it's cut now (just under the next "joint"), dip the end in a rooting hormone like RootTone, and put it in a little pot of sphagnum. Keep the sphagnum damp at all times, and there's a good chance that, in a month and a half or so, the spike will develop a little baby plant!

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    Originally posted by lja


    Phal spikes will last quite a while once they're cut. New buds may keep "developing" but, it's been my experience that these will usually just blast after they reach any size.

    Why don't you try stem-propping it? Cut the spike again one node up from where it's cut now (just under the next "joint"), dip the end in a rooting hormone like RootTone, and put it in a little pot of sphagnum. Keep the sphagnum damp at all times, and there's a good chance that, in a month and a half or so, the spike will develop a little baby plant!
    I dipped it and stuck it in some sphag, so time will tell. On another note, I found a nonbloomer epidendrum for 6 bucks. It had a keiki growing off a keiki, and has the start of another keiki . The one I cut and planted and is doing well. Do the leaves sometimes turn a purplish tinge? Mine is healthy looking, but it has purple going up the stem and in the leaves. I've never seen an epidendrum, so I'm not sure if this is normal.

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    If it's a reddish-purple color, the plant has more than likely gotten too much light. When you grow it, back it up from the window so it doesn't get any direct sun.

    (I always thought that "keiki" was such a such a silly-sounding word, so I try to use it as little as possible!!)

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    ok, it is good to know. Too much light. Gosh, where to put it now where it won't get to much light. I'm starting to resent the fact that my house has *too much* light. SIGH, maybe ALL I'll be able to grow in my house is dens. My den is doing great btw (not that you asked). The new growth is flouishing . I can't wait to see some flowers on it.

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    The bright light is fine--really good, in fact--just so long as it's not direct sunlight. The reddish color won't "hurt" anything, but really prominent red is the last stage before burn.

    Glad to hear about the dendros!

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    Default Since you're going to shows.....

    OT, there are usually lots of vendors at bigger shows who are selling Phrag seedlings, a couple of years (or sooner) till bloom. With all of the light you're now getting, those would seriously do great for you. You could get the plants pretty reasonably, and you should give them some thought if you like the flowers.

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    It is pretty weird that I get light that most people have to achieve artificially (sp?). I'd like to find out exactly how many candlefoots footcandle, whatever they are called I get. I'd be willing to bet at least 3500 in the bathroom, more in the kitchen. I have had to move around my plants as of late so they don't all get fried.

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    LOL! I remember a post you made where you asked about light but didn't want to hear anything whatsoever about all that "footcandles" stuff.

    Cool.

    Actually, if you're going to get right down to it, a lightmeter is invaluable to figure out just exactly what you've got going on. And, even though he's never said so, Paphphraguy, I am sure (lol!) has used one to achieve the results he has, judging from those incredible pictures and his growing.

    Do you have an older type SLR camera with a built-in light meter laying around somewhere? If you do, you can find out exactly how much light you're getting. Go to the CARE page on the site here, click on "Orchid Growing Mistakes and How to Avoid them," then, scroll down to the bottom and click on the link "Not enough light." I put a chart on there to tell you how to convert camera light meter readings into footcandles so you'll know exactly what you're getting. You can use that method all around your house to tell you what would be grown best in what area.

    You're actually very fortunate: it's a lot harder and more expensive to provide more light than it is to cut light back.

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    LOL! LJA, I don't use a light meter at all, in fact I don't even own one. I just do it the old fashion way, observation (like a hawk!)which to me is better than any light meter.

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