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hello, fellow flaskers!

This is a discussion on hello, fellow flaskers! within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; i got my two flasks today!! like i said earlier, this is my first time. ...

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    Default hello, fellow flaskers!

    i got my two flasks today!!

    like i said earlier, this is my first time. so i have a few question....

    1. when i compot, is it better if i sort by size? or should i put them all together until they all get a bit bigger?

    2. there seems to have been some jostling during shipping. there are a few little bits of agar floating around in the jar (the main 'chunk' of it is still whole and intact). do i need to deflask right away? (im not prepared, as i thought that the gentleman would be shipping later)

    3. are a few yellow-looking roots par for the course in (neofinetia) flasks? i ask because theyre still covered under warranty until i open em up.

    thanks for your help. im sure ill have more questions later....

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    I got mine today too. The contents are all over the place so I need to deflask tonight - good thing the big assignment tomorrow was cancelled and I got to leave work early. I would put similar size ones together - they will probably continue to grow faster than the slower ones.

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    I am by no means an expert in this area but what I have been doing is just putting them together. I can usually get several little compots out of a flask and the strong ones survive. so far this method seems to work well and I have had a very small mortality rate. so far

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    kewpie, not every seedling in a flask is going to make it. When you deflask, most of the time you're going to find a few with, like you said, yellowish roots, no roots at all (barely out of the corm stage) or a few with dying leaflets, along with some (hopefully most) that are huge in comparison. That's just par for the course. Some jostling during shipping is normal too--as long as the flask stays sealed, the plants won't be harmed. Here, I sort them roughly by size, but many growers will compot the whole agar mass without even rinsing the agar away first. That sometimes gives the tiniest ones a chance to continue developing where they would just die otherwise.

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    thanks for the answers everyone! i feel much better now.

    ki: what are in your flasks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kewpie
    thanks for the answers everyone! i feel much better now.

    ki: what are in your flasks?
    phal violaceas/bellinas and a hybrid of vio. crossed back on itself. I have yet to figure out how these viol. vars translate - I suspect they are now bellinas?

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    those are awesome choices, ki!

    i tried signing up for a bellina flask at troy meyers, but im, like, number 1000 in line, or something.

    i just have one measley phal in my collection, and its a noid rescue from where i work. recently, ive been seeing a lot of pics of species phals, and im now a huge phan (get it, get it??? )

    have you deflasked before? hope all of your little guys survive....maybe in a couple of years we can swap plants!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kewpie
    those are awesome choices, ki!

    i tried signing up for a bellina flask at troy meyers, but im, like, number 1000 in line, or something.

    i just have one measley phal in my collection, and its a noid rescue from where i work. recently, ive been seeing a lot of pics of species phals, and im now a huge phan (get it, get it??? )

    have you deflasked before? hope all of your little guys survive....maybe in a couple of years we can swap plants!
    I am not counting these babies yet. This is my first deflasking, but have dealt with just-out-of-flask compots before. Violaceas are the only phals I can keep happy. If these make it, some of them should be tradable within the year.

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    so have you done the deed yet?

    are you a window sill grower, ki? or do you have a green house or something? ive got a little humidity dome that im gonna keep the seedlings in.

    i think that im gonna try the leaving-the-plants-in-the-agar route. i feel like it would be a less harsh transition from the cozy flask to the real world if the roots had the food that they are used to having. with weekly spraying of physan/daconil/etc. fungus shouldnt be a problem, right? (knock wood)

    good luck with yours! i will be giving updates (whether people like it or not ), and you should too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kewpie
    so have you done the deed yet?
    Yes - on Thursday night. They are in a propagation dome. I'm an underlights grower for the most part, although I also have a few on the balcony and a few on a windowsill. Where in the world are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by kewpie
    i think that im gonna try the leaving-the-plants-in-the-agar route. i feel like it would be a less harsh transition from the cozy flask to the real world if the roots had the food that they are used to having. with weekly spraying of physan/daconil/etc. fungus shouldnt be a problem, right? (knock wood)
    I've heard people I trust say that leaving the agar on is not a good idea because of the added fungal risk.... maybe you can fully rinse some and leave agar on the others? I think it also depends on how developed the flasklings are.

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