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Fulvic Acid, Lime and Hygrozyme etc

This is a discussion on Fulvic Acid, Lime and Hygrozyme etc within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; So all you experienced growers out there (or people who like to experiment)--what do you ...

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    Default Fulvic Acid, Lime and Hygrozyme etc

    So all you experienced growers out there (or people who like to experiment)--what do you know about the benefits of Fulvic Acid, Lime and Hygrozyme. Here's what little I know.

    Lime: My guess is that it has a neutralizing effect on akaline water and/or potting material, but that is just my 8th grade science vague memory. I've heard that it can help with flowering. Any experience with it? Or what do you use it for?

    Fulvic Acid: I have read and heard that it increases root growth. Any one use it?

    Hygrozyme: Again, healthy root and plant growth. I believe this is a growth hormone. Again, anyone use it?

    So I guess my real question is this -- I have all those newly deflasked phal seedlings (count them 6 recent flasks), so I am very seriously considering a fertilizer experiment. Pick a few promising fertilizing regimines and supplements and see what happens on the compots, seedlings etc. So if you have any suggestions for other possible potions or fertilizers--by all means feel free to tell me/us about it.

    Thanks.

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    Can't really help with the acid or the Hygrozyme, but lime will not neutralise alkaline water. You will need something acidic to do that.

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    I think she means lime like Lime juice (Citric acid)..not lime like CaC03...


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    Can't really help with the acid or the Hygrozyme, but lime will not neutralise alkaline water. You will need something acidic to do that.

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    Well clearly my science is more rusty than I thought -- I actually did mean lime as in dolomite lime.

    I have heard that putting dolomite lime on top of the potting mix and watering it in just as the buds are starting to set is a good way to get better / bigger blooms on phals. Just curious if anyone else had tried it. This is, obviously, not going to matter for my little fertilizer experiment for a while since the little buggers are just out of flask and NOT going to spike anytime soon.

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    That's alkaline...It will only Up the pH..not lower it.

    I thought you meant "Lime in the Coconut"....

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    Well clearly my science is more rusty than I thought -- I actually did mean lime as in dolomite lime.

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    Well, I have been considering some fertilizer cocktails . . . but these phals are still minors.

    Do you actually use limes on yours? Have you tried any of these?

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    Ok...my thoughts now..

    Lime...while some paphs may like it...I think the average acid loving orchid would not...

    Fulvic acid: Fulvic acids, a natural extract from ancient plant deposit that was created 75 million years ago in the upper cretaceous period, consist of an immense arsenal and array of naturally occuring phytochemicals, biochemicals, supercharged antioxidants, free-radical scavengers, super oxide dismutases, nutrients, enzymes, hormones, amino acids, antibiotics, antivirals, and antifungals. Fulvic Acids greatly enhance the bioavailability of important trace minerals. Regenerate and prolong the residence time of essential nutrients in the cells. Modify the damage or toxic compounds such as heavy metals and free radicals. Enhance the permeability for digestive, circulatory, and cell membranes. As the most powerful, natural electrolyte known, fulvic acid restores electrical balance to damaged cells, neutralizes toxins and can eliminate food poisoning within minutes.To the science of living cells, fulvic acids are vital in bringing substantial amounts of nutrients and minerals into water solution and delivering their living energies to the living cells. (copied and pasted)...

    Why not try it? However, I have no idea where you would find fulvic acid. Special order?

    Hygrozyme: Specific Enzymes in a growing medium can eat dead protein removing potential areas where illness can develop. Through this breakdown process plants are better able to obtain nutrients that are released by this process. More nutrients, less attacks allowing things to grow bigger stronger faster (copied and pasted)..

    So this product just "eats" your old rotten roots and recycles the nutrients! Sounds awesome to me, but does it really work..(let me know)..

    Good luck again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clintdawley View Post
    Ok...my thoughts now..

    Lime...while some paphs may like it...I think the average acid loving orchid would not...

    Fulvic acid: ...

    Why not try it? However, I have no idea where you would find fulvic acid. Special order?
    Actually, a lot of nutrient lines contain fulvic acids and also humic acids. I just don't know of any orchid growers using them. I think they are used more with terrestrials, not epiphytes, where it is more important to create a living soil full of mycorrhizals, nematodes, etc. etc. etc... Anyone more interested in lines like this feel free to pm me.
    Fulvic acids are supposed to stimulate the roots and allow for better uptake of nutrients. I *think* fulvic acids are a type of humic acid. Humic acids are supposed to contain various compounds that transport nutes and vitamins more efficiently into the plant. Humic acid will help to chelate the positively charged ions such as Mg++, Ca++, Fe++, and make them easier to uptake. I *think*.

    As far as dolomitic lime, it can be used for pH buffering, and the benefits are that it is a natural product, not synthesized in a lab, and that it also contains magnesium and calcium, both extremely usable and important to plants, orchids included. Any good fertilizer complete with micronutrients and trace elements will contain some magnesium and calcium, but dolomite can add some more and shouldn't hurt the plant... I can think of at least one commercial grower who specifically uses 65 mesh dolomitic lime in his Laelias (rupiculous Laelias.)

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    So old thread, thanks for sharing these information guys.
    I know some about fulvic acid :
    1. with strongest CEC fulvic acid will largely increase the fertility of soil and water holding capacity.
    2. fulvic acid can stimulate cell division and increase permeability of membrane to increase plants growth through magnified absorption of a group of micro nutrient by strong root system.
    3. rich in humic acid and mineral fulvic acid can create a kind of cozy environment for microbial to grow, promote plants growth.

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