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Update on my Sphag and Bag Dend.

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    Default Update on my Sphag and Bag Dend.

    I sphag and bagged this Dendrobium a couple of weeks ago, and this morning I discovered a new shoot coming out of the base of the plant. Its now about half an inch long, but no new roots yet even from the old roots that remained. My question is when to take the plant out of the bag? I understand that I should wait until new roots appear but the new growth have me worried. I worry that it might rot inside the bag. My other question is the ID of this Dend. It came with a tag that says Thong Chai Gold 'mutation'. All I could find in my search is a yellow dend with red lip and none of them have the last name "mutation". The flower of this dend. is yellow sepals but both the petals and the lip are red.

    I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

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    Default brassia in a bag for weeks.....

    hi.
    different plant, but same method; I've had a Brassia pbulb in a bag for quite a while now, the lead is about an inch and a half tall, still no roots started yet. It'll stay in the bag until(or if) the roots are about an inch long.

    I was advised to make sure the pbulb didn't sit in the damp sphag; so far - and really, this is going on months now - no rot, no molds or fungus, just slow growth.

    sorry but no help on the ID...good luck

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    Thanks Pete, I will do the same, wait till roots make their appearance.

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    I would love to see a picture some time of what sphag and bag actually looks like. I've read the descriptions, but still don't quite understand how to do it. Thanks.

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    Its no biggie John, I don't know exactly how the professionals do it but here's how mine looks like. The plant doesn't fit inside a ziploc bag, so I made do with those bag they use for garments and hang the bag in a darkish corner. Every few days I open the bag and blow some air into it. I don't know if that is benificial but I feel more comfortable if the bag is puff up. The clothes peg helps to keep the sphag from getting in contact with the leaves.

    It doesn't look professional but at least the plant is doing OK so far .
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    i have no camera, so no pics, but mine is essentially the same - except it's small enough to fit in a ziplock. the bulb is sitting in a saucer with some black marble I had laying around to absorb heat, a handful of damp sphag a couple inches away. i open the thing up every once in a while, as much to have a look at it as to refresh the air...that's about it...i'll see if i can grab a camera and post a pic soon

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    i have a tweaked version of the sphag/bag thing:

    i took a storage box (a of those stackable ones that you find at target, with a translucent drawer). i had a people heat pad that i stuck into the structure, underneath the removable drawer. i cut out the top of the box (because its white) and replaced it via duct tape with a translucent piece of plastic. i set the heat pad to the low setting, put some damp sphag into the drawer, and set the plant (still in its pot) into the drawer.

    this way, i dont have to deal with bags flopping over or leaves touching bags and possibly getting too wet and getting fungus.

    its worked out really really well. the psychopsis that i was trying to rehabilitate when i first cooked this technique up has roots that are about 2 inches long (see old thread ). i was already sphagging and bagging this plant for a few months before, with no *real* success. adding the heat really really helped it, in my opinion.

    sorry, no pic.

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    Thanks Tanya. Wow, I'm surprised it doesn't get all fungus-y.

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    Do you use rooting hormone for sphag and bag orchids?

    I've heard of soaking the sphag in a solution of rooting hormone and dusting the plant with it too. Is there a big difference if you use it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOHNnDC
    Thanks Tanya. Wow, I'm surprised it doesn't get all fungus-y.
    It will get fungus-y if you don't soak the plant and the sphag with fungicide solution before bagging them. Make sure also that the plant is dry, no water inside those leaf axils.

    Lily, I have heard that the rooting hormone helps, I will use it if I have some. To me, the combine costs of fungicide, the rooting hormone (pricey here, not to mention that its not widely available) and my train fare in going to the big city to get it, is more than enough to buy a new plant. I would rather buy a new plant and toss the sick one into the bin.

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