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Catt from OS meeting has no roots

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    Default Catt from OS meeting has no roots

    Someone at my local OS meeting gave me a division of L. Labiata a couple of months ago. It has 3 bulbs and a new growth but basically fell right out of the pot while watering because it does not have any good roots.

    The new growth has still been growing a little bit but most of the old roots are hollow and there are only a couple (at most) of viable, old roots and no new ones. What would you do with this? Give up on it? I am not a fan of sphag and bag. Plus the division is fairly tall and taking up a decent amount of limited space. I can't imagine it would flower in the next year or so.

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    I personally wouldn't give up on an orchid even if the chances of survival seem to be slim. Orchids can be tough and they often have the "I won't die" attitude. Sphag and bag is worth a try, IMO. There is a possibility of success if you try it...

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    I agree. If you're not into sphag and bag, try wadded-up-wet-paper-towel-and bag. (!!) If nothing else, it can be a learning experience, and you can place the bagged plant somewhere out of the way--it doesn't need to be in your growing area while it's developing new roots. (I used to throw sphag-n-bag cases under the bench where they got very little light. Then, I'd forget about them. Six weeks later, tada! New roots. Dip the rhizomes into Rootone (powder or liquid) before you bag... It's worth a shot, IMHO.

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    The alternative is to pot into a tiny pot that will just accommodate the viable roots. It's ok to have rootless growths hanging off the side. Old growths won't produce roots anyway. Lower light, high humidity, careful attention to watering (i.e. it may dry out quickly if it's in a 2" pot). When the new growth sends out its spurt of roots, visible as the tiniest of nubbins at the base, you can "pot on" to a next size up, maybe a 3" or so. Keep the media ball intact and just fill in the edges with media.

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    What about this kooky idea? Putting it into a 2 or 3 inch pot with no media and spraying the roots once daily? That way I can see when the nubbies start to grow???

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    Unless you have greenhouse humidity, I don't think spraying once a day is sufficient for root growth. Even in the winter, with the low humidity indoors, I have to spray my *vandas* twice a day. Maybe even three times if it's a sunny day. Better off with your standard catt media I think. You will still see nubbins from the new growth. They come from the base of the pseudobulb, which should be potted right at the surface of the media.

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    So Jason would you recommend potting it in a tiny pot with bark and if so fine, medium or coarse? Or should I try s/h? Thanks-

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    If it's a 2-3" clay pot, fine bark might be a good choice. plastic pot, you can use either. The key is watering when the stuff gets dry. A small clay pot with medium bark under warm sunny conditions might dry out twice a day, for example.

    I despise using s/h for catts. Once upon a time I was throwing everything into s/h and almost killed a cattleya. Hard to respect the rest period in s/h. And while minicatts may never rest (and therefore be good s/h candidates), species catts as far as I know all have rest periods at some point or another. And those need to be honored. The same goes for most of the big standard catts. I'm not saying you can't do it, but I don't think the s/h method is conducive for plants with pronounced rest periods, unless you somehow remove the reservoir during that time.

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