Shop Orchid Care OrchidTalk Orchid Forum Weather Station Links Nursery

Welcome to OrchidTalk Orchid Forums


The Friendliest Orchid Community on the Internet!


  •  » Learn to Repot your Orchids
  •  » Learn Orchid Care Tips and Secrets
  •  » Find the perfect Orchid for your Growing Environment
  •  » Chat with Orchid Growing Professionals

OrchidTalk - "Bringing People Together to Grow Orchids Better!"


Let us help you grow your Orchids better; Join our community today.


YES! I want to register an account for free right now!


Register or Login now to remove this advertisement.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 26

native orchid species if collected in the wild?

This is a discussion on native orchid species if collected in the wild? within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; hey guys. while i was at the market earlier today, something caught my eye. An ...

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    raymund_jesus is offline Member
    My Grow Area
    Outside 24/7.
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Phalaenopsis, Cattleya, Dendro
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Roxas City, Philippines
    Posts
    58
    Member's Country Flag

    Default native orchid species if collected in the wild?

    hey guys. while i was at the market earlier today, something caught my eye. An ati (native filipinoe) was selling orchids she said they collected this in the jungles in the mountains. its a white phal with a few keiki. it looks sickly though but i intend to grow it healthy. it was a bargain for only 25pesos, about 50cents. i also got one that was not flowering but she said its flower is pink.

    i have a question, so is this a native species? since it was collected in the wild, so it is not a hybrid, right? the flower is small, less than an inch wide. and can someone help with the ID?

    the first picture is the flower. second is the few keikis and the pink phal with striped leaves.
    Attached Images Attached Images   

  2. #2
    orchidlady's Avatar
    orchidlady is offline Senior Member
    Real Name
    Susan
    My Grow Area
    Under Lights
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Phal and Paph species
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    904

    Default

    i have a question, so is this a native species? since it was collected in the wild, so it is not a hybrid, right? the flower is small, less than an inch wide. and can someone help with the ID?
    Actually, I would suspect it is the natural hybrid Phal. x intermedia based on the size, shape, and colored lip. X intermedia is a cross between Phal. aphrodite and Phal. equestris.

    The plant with the mottled leaves is most likely Phal. schilleriana if it is pink.

    Susan

  3. #3
    delphiguy's Avatar
    delphiguy is offline Senior Member
    Real Name
    Randy
    My Grow Area
    Outside 24/7
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Vanda and Paphiopedilum
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Pampanga, Philippines
    Posts
    3,542
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    i agree with susan... the first one is intermedia, and the other is schilleriana... I had both
    and both are in orchid heaven... anyways raymond you got them really cheap at only 25
    pesos....

  4. #4
    AtantaR's Avatar
    AtantaR is offline 0101101000101110
    Real Name
    Andrew
    My Grow Area
    Windowsill
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Hhhmmmm?
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Posts
    934
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    I would feel weird about getting stuff from the wild since you dont know the repercussion of such. But thats just my opinion. There are enough clones out there. We need to conserve and respect nature....no bad feeling tho....just something to think about

  5. #5
    raymund_jesus is offline Member
    My Grow Area
    Outside 24/7.
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Phalaenopsis, Cattleya, Dendro
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Roxas City, Philippines
    Posts
    58
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    ok, one reason why i bought these orchids is that i want to help the natives. it is our fault, the so-called "modern civilization" displaces the natives. this is happening everywhere. the natives are displaced by the "more civilized" intruders. they were fine before the "intruders" (a.k.a. us)" came, introduced money and i feel sorry for them.

    i am not justifying my decision to purchase the orchids, but this seem irrelevant. this is something so small, compared to the "modern civilization" continually disrespecting nature in huge scale.

    zoos and botanical gardens take plants and animals in the wild. it is just now that we have captive breeding programs and learn more in plant propagation.

    i am sorry but i dont think i am disrespecting nature and i do care about conservation.

    and thinking, these clones are from mother plants collected in the wild, we did not know the repercussions back then...

  6. #6
    catttan's Avatar
    catttan is offline Senior Member
    Real Name
    Yew-Sung
    My Grow Area
    Outside 24/7
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    cattleyas, vandaceous,paphios
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Kedah, Peninsular Malaysia
    Posts
    15,877
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    I totally agree with Raymund. Here our aborigines or 'orang asli' [as they called locally] are mostly hunters and collectors and and about the only commodity they can sell are the jungle products like plants and fruits, rattan and bamboo, in order to buy the modern 'essentials' we introduce to them.Recently I have noticed that they are selling orchids too and getting a fair price for them - not for 25 pesos but more like US $5 - 20.Here, though, only the 'orang asli' are allowed to collect them. The impact on the wild orchid population? Minimal I'd say because the 'orang asli' only collects enough to buy the essentials he needs.He doesn't aspire to accumulate wealth like 'us'. The real danger is the indiscriminate and illegal logging by 'us' that destroy thousands of acres of their habitat.Another danger is the commercial collector who pays the 'orang asli' to collect loads of orchids for them for a pittance.
    Recently a commercial collector was prosecuted for possession of wild orchids.

  7. #7
    raymund_jesus is offline Member
    My Grow Area
    Outside 24/7.
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Phalaenopsis, Cattleya, Dendro
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Roxas City, Philippines
    Posts
    58
    Member's Country Flag

    Default someone edited my original post.

    i just read my original post and someone edited it and even changed the title without my consent.

    is this allowed?

    and i never intended for this thread to be about a "native species collected in the wild". all i wanted was an ID!

    raymund

  8. #8
    Cjcorner's Avatar
    Cjcorner is offline Senior Member
    Real Name
    Connie
    My Grow Area
    Porch/Patio.
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Mini Vanda, Schombs &Encyclia.
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    West of Tampa, FL
    Posts
    9,139
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    I hope all the "hubbub", didn't put you off....alot of us are taught very early that it is a major sin to collect from the wild. However, please do not take offense as there are exceptions to every rule. You got three lovely plants for a wonderful price...and it helped out a less fortunate person. You score twice in my book on the good side! lol And....I'm a phal lover too...i'd have had to have those lovlies in my collection as well!

  9. #9
    AtantaR's Avatar
    AtantaR is offline 0101101000101110
    Real Name
    Andrew
    My Grow Area
    Windowsill
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Hhhmmmm?
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Posts
    934
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    sorry for taking you away from getting your ID. I just like a good convo. to see how people feel...I deff like your insite and agree with both of you here and I never ment to insinuate that you dont respect nor conserve nature. And yet what you bought did help a native. Its always those major growers/dealers that exploit. Thanks for the reply and your opinion.
    As for your ID...lol....hmmmmm maybe BD changed the title on yah.

  10. #10
    Brutal_Dreamer's Avatar
    Brutal_Dreamer is offline Dreaming with my eyes open...
    Real Name
    Bruce Brown
    My Grow Area
    Greenhouse
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Cattleyas & Slippers
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Arkansas
    Posts
    34,003
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by raymund_jesus View Post
    ........i have a question, so is this a native species? since it was collected in the wild, so it is not a hybrid, right? the flower is small, less than an inch wide. and can someone help with the ID?
    ...
    Quote Originally Posted by raymund_jesus View Post
    i just read my original post and someone edited it and even changed the title without my consent.

    is this allowed?

    and i never intended for this thread to be about a "native species collected in the wild". all i wanted was an ID!

    raymund
    Raymund, I edited the the title of this thread to match the question you posed in your post. [Is this allowed?] Answer: YES. I try to keep the titles of threads matching the content of the discussion. You also ask for an ID. I hope you see that - that was given (or suggested) in post 2. If you have further questions about this edit, please take it up with me via PM.

    Cheers,
    BD

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Can you find the name of this native orchid
    By mslynn in forum General Orchid Culture
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: July 17th, 2009, 11:09 PM
  2. Native Species
    By Tmai in forum Orchids of Other Genera IN BLOOM
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: July 8th, 2009, 05:03 PM
  3. Maxillaria tenuifolia species native to Nicaragua
    By ana patricia in forum Orchids of Other Genera IN BLOOM
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: March 2nd, 2009, 10:49 PM
  4. Help with a Wild Orchid ID
    By brandankinfortpiercefl in forum General Orchid Culture
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: March 2nd, 2008, 04:26 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
OrchidTalk --An Orchid Growers Discussion Forum brought to you by River Valley Orchidworks. A World Community where orchid beginners and experts talk about orchids and share tips on their care, cultivation, and propagation.