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Lifespan of monopodial orchids.

This is a discussion on Lifespan of monopodial orchids. within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Originally Posted by Halloamey ....... I am already thinking about an insurance policy or a ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloamey View Post
    ....... I am already thinking about an insurance policy or a foundation that will take care of my orchids after me, in case my future generations are not so keen on keeping my orchids happy LOL.
    On the other hand, you could just simply donate all your orchids to me and I will be more than happy to care for them. LOL!

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    "Upon my death, my orchids shall be given to the most experienced people in the OrchidTalk forums so as to ensure their well-being for the rest of their lives."

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    I wonder where the oldest living orchid, in cultivation is? That would be cool to see!

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    Thanks Amey for the explanation. It sounded very much like a discourse on the origin of the species. With reference to the original question on the lifespan of monopodials ,it would perpetuate itself vegetatively ad infinitum, unlike the chocolate cake, unless there is human or divine intervention.I don't know if any records have been kept of particular orchid plants in the wild but would any orchid rival the sequoia? I wonder.
    My 2 oldest plants which are still with me since I started orchids in the early 60s are Den Gatton Sunray 'Excelsior' FCC RHS, and Cstm Tuanku Zainab Petra - that would make them close to 50 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    Thanks Amey for the explanation. It sounded very much like a discourse on the origin of the species.
    Not actually Yew, the process of mutation is the same as I explained, but during the reproduction of any species a sexual phase by meiosis takes place, in which genetic material from two distinct individuals is mixed such that the faults in one are overcome in by the other to give evolved stronger individuals, in case of vegetative reproduction the faults cannot be overcome they keep on accumulating.

    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    With reference to the original question on the lifespan of monopodials ,it would perpetuate itself vegetatively ad infinitum, unlike the chocolate cake, unless there is human or divine intervention.
    No plant, microbe or animal can perpetuate vegetatively for ever, without the introduction of variation by a sexual phase. The machinery that the organisms use to divide vegetatively itself makes error without the need of human or divine intervention.

    To give you an example among plants, Bamboo is a grass which is propagated vegetatively by using off shoots from a Bamboo cane. The life span of individual bamboo species (arising from seeds!!!) is say 100 years, soo bamboo seedlings will have a life span of 100 years. Now say your bamboo seedlings are 20 years old and you decide to propagate them vegetatively by offshoots, the plants arising from these offshoots will not live for a 100 years but only 80 years as the planting material is already 20 years old. Further you decide to take cuttings from the original seedlings after 50 years, then the new plants arising will die after 50 years instead of 100 years.

    So finally when the mother bamboo seedlings die at the age of 100 years, All the plants produced from them vegetatively will die with them irrespective of their age. I hope you understand this. This is the main reason why there are mass die offs of Bamboo forests resulting in insufficient food for the giant panda. The secret for the Bamboo is it flowers and produces seed before dieing, so the original seedlings produce seeds at the age of 100 yrs, the offshoots taken at 20 years will flower and seed at 80 years of age and the ones taken at 50 will also after only 50 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    I don't know if any records have been kept of particular orchid plants in the wild but would any orchid rival the sequoia? I wonder.
    The oldest known orchids are the ones in cultivation from the Victorian era making them well over 200 years old. As to the ones in my personal collection, the cattleyas that I collected from the old Parsi guy are about a 100 years old, as that guy is some 85 years old and those plants were collected by his grandmother who expired in 1912 !!

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    Thanks Amey for the extra info.

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    Wow, those are indeed old plants!

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    The oldest known orchids are the ones in cultivation from the Victorian era making them well over 200 years old. As to the ones in my personal collection, the cattleyas that I collected from the old Parsi guy are about a 100 years old, as that guy is some 85 years old and those plants were collected by his grandmother who expired in 1912 !!
    I was thinking that the oldest orchids must be from the Victorian era. I bet there are some good specimens at Kew. Kew is on my list of places to go in my life! Its so cool you have some plants with such am awesome history. Thanks for the info! very interesting....

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    yes my grandmother has one phal that is 15+ years old. the leaves are probably at least 14 inches long on the oldest ones and it is almost always in bloom with 5 to 6 spikes on it. truly a specimen

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    I must admit to being impressed with this thread and I am glad that Drew rediscovered it. I learned a lot and enjoyed it. I have seen A couple of 15 plus year old vandas in Florida years ago, and remember that they bloomed, and bloomed, and bloomed! AL

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