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Swamp water?

This is a discussion on Swamp water? within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Chlorine (normal bleach) dissipates after 24 hours. Chloramine does not. So you would need to ...

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    Chlorine (normal bleach) dissipates after 24 hours. Chloramine does not. So you would need to check to see which your municipality uses.

    I wouldn't use ultra and/or scented bleaches. You want the cheap stuff for cleaning of water or aquaria or water features (being sure to remove desired critters).

    Also remember that bleach can burn your skin, eyes and be an irritant to throat and lungs. DO NOT MIX bleach and other things without knowing what your doing or you could result with chlorine gas very very bad. In other words don't mix chlorine with scowering powders or things like that. Almost lost a friend to that stuff.

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    Because of the differences in names of products in the UK it,s hard to reccomend anything.We do use Jeyes fluid(not available in the US normally) as a multi purpose disinfectant , a small amount in a barrel of water will kill of any nasties.
    Lysol is about the closest product i can find in the US.

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    I wouldn't worry about it. I've been collecting rain water and lots of elm seeds and cotton wood seeds have fallen in my containers. I tried to net them out, but kind of gave up on the idea. Most have sunk and rotted. The water has a funky smell to it, but I still use it. I've been doing this for a few years now. The orchids are growing like crazy.

    The way I figure, this is what happens in nature. Stuff falls into the water, rots, releases its nutrients and feeds other plants. The smell would just be the result of bacteria doing their work and releasing various gases in the process. Might smell bad to us, but plants can't smell.

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    Yes, Matt, to all you said.I would wait a day or so.You don't have to use Chlorox brand but any store brand will do.Years ago in Canada we called it javelle water --Javex was the store brandname like Chlorox.It's like kleenex which we use the word all the time for tissues not necessarily Kleenex!Get my point? I started using this a long time ago but then after West Nile virus reared its ugly head I used chlorox as a mosquito killer in the barrel.Now I use just ordinary tap water as our water is great.I've read where it's useful to pour water with chlorox in it through pots that accumulate algae--especially the see -thru pots where you can see it.Apparently it only kills the algae -does not harm the plant.

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    Forgot to mention I use mosquito dunks in the barells , They do the job .

    I wish it would rain here , the ground looks like adobe . my RO. unit is getting a work out . Gin

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    LI Jane or others who have tried the bleach thing in the rainwater...I did this...about 1/2 cup of good old Clorox bleach in each full 30 gallon barrell...I swished it around several times over 3-4 days before using it...I loaded some of the water into my sprayer, sprayed the orchids down, and now they smell like bleach! If it had all evaporated in those 3-4 days, shouldn't the smell have dissipated by then? Now I'm terrified I'm going to have my entire collection of orchids turn brown and die by the end of the week! YIKES!

    So here is my question: Is the residual smell normal or did I do something wrong?

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    Normal chlorine will evaporate after 24 hours doesn't matter how much water you have and so should the smell. If it's chlorimine then it must be chemically neutralized. I beleive ultra bleaches are of the chlorimine family but you should be able to read the label and find out. Also there's a fairly inexpensive test for both chlorimine and chlorine that you can get at your local pet shop. As well as the chems to get rid of either if you don't want to wait. I'm fairly certain that they would be safe for orchids since they are safe for fishies.

    Here is some information pertaining to aquaria
    ... I'm not sure but with chloramine breaking down to chlorine and amonia with the addition of the dechlorination chems then you have amonia water - amonia can break down over time to Nitrogen which can be good or bad depending on the plant. So Hope this helps.
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    Matt, several growers I really respect use a spraydown with bleach water to help prevent diseases, so no harm done there.

    What you should do now though, is run clear water through the pots and flush any bleach from the roots.

    Bleach + roots = :action-sm

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