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phalenopsis philipinensis and phalenopsis schilleriana culture advice needed

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    Default phalenopsis philipinensis and phalenopsis schilleriana culture advice needed

    as usual today was one of the normal orchid hunting trip but didn't expect to have these two. first time encountered for me and was attracted by the mottled appearance of the leaves. however i was told by the grower that these orchids don't bloom that easily in lowland environment and especially the schilleriana. anyway attracted by the appearance of the leave and the challenge to get them bloom, i finally ended with two new family members today

    i am new to phalenopsis, so any tips would be greatly appreciated. i planned to mount them on fern roots. can i treat them as i treat my phalenopsis bellina? or they need cooler environment?

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    I have schilleriana and it gets treated the same as all my other Phals and blooms every year (setting a spike right now). However, I don't grow mounted and grow inside under T5 fluorescent lights.

    Susan

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    I have philipinensis and also bellina and treat the same as other phals infact the same as most of my orchid collection with less light than catts but more than paphs. My philipinensis is mounted and humidity kept at 60 - 80 % humidity. Sprayed twice a day with crown pointing down so i dont repeat the many unfortunate incidents of rot in the past. Its roots at moment acts as a temporary platform nest/ home for a cycnoche which is grown up towards a direct sun position while the phal grows down into the shaded area. Leaves of phili suffer bad harm from direct sun rays and blisters the leaf. This is the only difference to noid phals. Temp range is 18-20 oc night and 20-26 oc day and its just in spike now.

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    thank you very much for the info Susan and Matt. seems like both of this species needs a cooler environment to prosper (no wonder the grower said few only had the philipinensis to flower in lowland and rare for the schilleriana).
    temperature for my area here is at least 30C and above for most of the days and can hit up to 34-45C. seems like i might need to try a different spot to grow this two.
    love the idea where u had the cynoches grown upwards with the phal downwards. cool idea, may even try it one day.

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    Phal philippinensis needs it cooler, where as schilleriana flowers in lowlands.

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    Phalaenopsis philippinensis and Phalaenopsis lindenii rarely bloom in lowlands, it needs cooler conditions to induce flowering, they are difficult species to establish because of their slow growth.

    Phalaenopsis schilleriana and Phalaenopsis stuartiana does flower in lowlands but needs constant cooling periods enable to bloom, otherwise, it will only result to produce keikis instead of flowers.

    Most Phalaenopsis species needs dormant period enable to store more food and water to produce its own hormones to induce bloom.
    Some species if they are overfeed, they tend to produced more keikis than flowers. But the dry cooler months triggers them to flower.
    The hot and wet season is the period for them to store more food for the upcoming periods of blooming.

    The only Phalaenopsis I have ever known to bloom year round without any particular attention or care and any planting media is the Philippine natural hybrid Phalaenopsis x intermedia. They adapt from direct sunlight to filtered or shade and of course needs high humidity.

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    Good purchase, Ian... Schilleriana grows beautifully in tropical lowland Malaysia, but I have personally seen 2 plants (at 2 different places, without artificial cooling) flowering in Selangor, so blooming is not impossible.

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    mmmmmmm.........seems like there is different opinions here but very much appreciated for all the feedback. Keiki sounds good to me too Derek, at least i can have more of them, i love the mosaic pattern on the leaves. and thanks Paphioboy, your feedback sounds encouraging.
    maybe i will keep both of them behind my house, its cooler behind adn lack of direct sun.
    thanks again everyone, you all had been very helpful.

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    I have no experience with Phal philippinensis but many years ago my schilleriana only produced keikis like Derek says.

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