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This is a discussion on help ID my new orchid plants within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Hello, everybody. Few days ago I received some nice gifts. Well, they were that cheap ...

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    Hello, everybody.

    Few days ago I received some nice gifts. Well, they were that cheap that I would have bought them anyway. These guys are a new challenge as until now I had several Phal orchids (all growing new spikes, some already blooming).

    Please help me with ID's and some care instructions like soil/light/water. I keep all my Phals in Seramis orchid substrate but now I have moved from the Netherlands to Romania and all I can find is peat with traces of bark. I could buy clay and bark and make my own mix but what kind of bark is recommended and what clay/bark ratio?

    Enough talk, moving the the photo show:

    1. fragrant
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    3. fragrant
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    Happy growing,
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    First one is some kind of zygo or zygo cross. The red color is one I've not seen before. The second is in the oncidium family and I suspect will be harder to identify.

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    Last two may be Miltonidium Issaku Nagata (Onc leucochilum x Milt warscewiczii). These plants have very thin roots. I would use fine bark, charcoal and perlite to lighten up the mix. Remember to put medium rocks or charcoal at the bottom for drainage'
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    Welcome to the forum. The first one is Zygopetalum mackaii Hooker 1827, I have the same plant also in flower, it is slightly fragrant.

    martha

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    Sebastian: I believe the first flower is a cultivar of Zygolum Louisendorf. I purchased one two months ago and the flower looks very similar. This hybrid has a 50% Zygosepalum labiosum background. I'll grow it like zygopetalums with fine fir bark and perlite, bright light, kept fairly moist when growing, and avoiding the very hot summer temperatures.

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    The second flower resembles Aliceara (formerly Beallara) Peggy Ruth Carpenter. The last flower is most definitely a hybrid of Miltonia warscewiczii (now reclassified as Oncidium fuscatum). You'll probably never know the names for sure; another possibility for the last is Oncidium (formerly Odontonia) Debutante.

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    I am no expert in onc. family... My guess that the first one is a Zygo. Hybrid the second one I guessing Miltassia (not sure how to spell it) because of its 'pink' color and the third might be just in the oncidium family that will be harder to find the ID. btw, they are very pretty!!! good luck
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    Thank you all for the info. I had no idea that orchid taxonomy is this crazy.

    With the risk of confusing myself even more, I did some digging through the posts and I found these two bits of info concerning the firts plant, the Zygo cross:

    1. Bollopetalum Midnight Blue is a cross of Bollea violacea x (Zygopetelum Blackii x Zygopetelum mackayi)

    2. my flowers are identical to this http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchid...ike-bloom.html

    Do I treat it as Zygopetelum mackayi ?

    Sebastian

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    All I can say is your photo matches my plant exactly, right down to the colors, the green on the edges of the petals, the deep burgandy/maroon color, the subtle striping on the lip. The link to Gabriella's beautiful orchids photo's as a beautiful blue/purple on the lip but otherwise identical. I'm no expert and I only reported what was on the plant tag and they are known to be wrong so I'll wait for the experts to weigh in but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that it's a cross of the Zygopetalum mackaii.

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    Sebastian: I don't see any of the blue on the lip of your plant that is characteristic of Bollopetalum Midnight Blue. Martha, the species Zygopetalum mackayi has a relatively pale lip compared to this flower. I'd be inclined to think your label is incorrect. I still believe the plant in question is Zygolum Louisendorf (which does have some Zygopetalum mackayi in its' background). I believe this plant is identical to plants identified as Zygolum Louisendorf depicted on a variety of websites which can be accessed through the search engines.

    wuness

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