Did you read through this whole thread? I am nowhere near quitting, nor have I killed more than about 10 orchids - some intentionally - since I started. There was a significant death toll after October, but not mine to confess to. I thought that, in my responses to posts throughout this thread that I have made it clear that 1) I AM getting a lot of crucial cultivation guidelines; 2) I appreciate all the input folks (including you, of course) have written, and 3) I thoroughly enjoy this sometimes maddening hobby/addiction - I am, in fact, on a road trip to a nursery specializing in phrags and paphs and am heading off to pick up my Christmas presents - about 8 of them, for which I have no space, but I'm determined to get them in there somewhere. I'll post some photos when I get home.