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Freaking out about my New Cattleya!!!! help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by orchidbaby View Post
    I checked online....and a little 4oz of the superthrive is 11 bucks! thats a lot for a little bit....
    great idea let it dry overnight and doh worry bout superthrive....dont think its needed....no chemicals in the jungle therefore dont focus on it.......in the caribbean here we grow up tuff....therfore my orchids tuff....i never used anything for cuts....never sterilized a blade....never used anything other than fertilizer....never had a problem....jus like u shudnt focus on supplements wen ur in the gym.....trust nature

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    Ok Orchidbaby, here's a way to stake it. It's an oncidium I was fighting with last year, at the time it had very few roots. Twist ties work, yarn may be a good substitute too, just don't make it too tight. As for the superthrive, you may want to start out with the cheap stuff. I've never used it, heck I don't even think it sells here, and several members like OrchidAddict have proof that it works, but like me you can work your way up to the hardcore orchid paraphernalia Nice going with the organic bleach, didn't know about that.

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    About the chlorine free bleach...what are its ingredients? I am wondering if it's a surfactant to aid in cleaning, but not something that would aid in helping to rid your plant of potentially disease causing pathogens. You want something that will basically sterilize the plant...
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    Quote Originally Posted by orchidbaby View Post
    I checked online....and a little 4oz of the superthrive is 11 bucks! thats a lot for a little bit....
    It only take a tiny drop to do the work though. (FTR - I don't use it anymore.)

    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutal_Dreamer View Post
    It only take a tiny drop to do the work though. (FTR - I don't use it anymore.)cheers,BD
    Very true...I have the tiny bottle and after over a year it's only half used. I still use it only because it's still there. Probably wont buy it again. I think seaweed extract is better for promoting growth. It is also on the pricy side, but again, a little goes a long way. I figure twenty bucks for something that will give me two years of use is ok! BTW, keep seaweed extract in the fridge. I had a bottle go moldy on me.Posted via Mobile Device

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    Quote Originally Posted by orchidbaby View Post
    I checked online....and a little 4oz of the superthrive is 11 bucks! thats a lot for a little bit....
    Hehee...yeah, I thought so too, at first, but when I ordered it, the bottle said you only need one drop for every gallon of water...it's super-concentrated. As far as it being full of "chemicals" that aren't found in nature, the inventor calls the ingredients "Bio-Usables;" they are vitamins and hormones normally produced by the plant during the process of photosynthesis, so there's nothing "artificial" about it...you're just giving your plant what it would be trying to make for itself anyway.

    By the way, I tried to PM you, but you don't seem to have the "personal messaging" option turned on in your profile. You can control this under your settings. Just make sure you have the "allow personal messages" box checked. Anyway, as I tend to be rather long-winded, I thought it would be better to just write here in the thread than to leave a ridiculously long message on your visitor wall! LOL

    Anyway, as some have said on this thread, SuperThrive is by no means absolutely necessary. Personally, I find that it helps with my plants, especially when I order plants online and they are shipped bare-root and have been dried out for a few days by the time I receive them. It helps give them a nutrient boost so they can recover faster, and they do seem to perk up quite fast. If you're undecided on the subject, I recommend reading some reviews of it online and just seeing if you want to give it a try. But like others have said, it's by no means a necessity.

    And DON'T FEAR THE BLEACH!! It won't hurt your plant...I promise. I mean...don't soak it overnight in the stuff or anything, but for a quick disinfectant, it's fine. Just make sure you give the plant a thorough rinse-off with lukewarm water afterward. As for peroxide, this thread is the first time I've heard of the peroxide idea... I would hesitate to use that, simply because someone in the health field told me recently that peroxide is no longer recommended for cleaning off wounds on human skin, because the bubbling action can actually damage some of the healthy tissue too. I'm not sure how much truth there is to this, but I now use alcohol to disinfect all wounds on my kids.

    But the person who mentioned the peroxide it is obviously having success with that method...so it's obviously not terribly harmful to plants. The bottom line is: you need to decide what you're comfortable with. It's really is all trial and error for your own growing conditions. There's no one "magic formula" that works for everyone.

    I'm a big believer in what's simple and easy. Bleach bath and repotting with a boost of superthrive works great for me. I can't speak to mounting plants because I've never done it (I'm not quite brave enough for that), but I have dendrobiums, vandaceous orchids, a whole bunch of phals, a couple of paphs, and a miltoniopsis, and all thrive in their pots once I get the water/light/potting mix formula right for each type. If it helps at all, I've never found a commercial potting mix that I've been satisfied with...all seem to compact too quickly or hold too much water.

    I use coarse bark mixed with LECA pellets and sometimes lava rock, and this seems to do this trick. I adjust the ratios for different orchid types, and again, it's trial and error. But sick plants with rotting roots have recovered nicely in a coarse bark/LECA pellet blend for me.

    I hope this makes sense...I have to go now...my kids are fighting... aargh...

    Sorry to be so long-winded...I tend to type like I think... ramble, ramble, ramble... but again, don't fear the bleach, and make sure the potting mix you use allows for lots of air movement once it's back in its pot. And as someone else wisely said, "As long as there is green, there is hope!" Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cakedaddy View Post
    About the chlorine free bleach...what are its ingredients? I am wondering if it's a surfactant to aid in cleaning, but not something that would aid in helping to rid your plant of potentially disease causing pathogens. You want something that will basically sterilize the plant...
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    I was wondering about that too, Jason. My first thought was that a "natural" laundry additive might be vinegar! So I looked it up--4 main ingredients: nonnatural fragrances, citric acid and sodium laureate derived from plants (not sure what impact they might have on plants) AND. . .

    Wait for it. . .

    Hydrogen peroxide! LOL

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    lol.....ok i tired of liking all these comments because they are all good advice....haha and why the bias against H2O2 (aka hydrogen peroxide)???? powerful yet gentle, breaking down into water and supplemental oxygen in water........Ive used it to clean as well as a supplement to hydroponics(non orchid), never use on soils tho if you want natural healthy micro organisms to stick around....good growing!!

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    Hi! Earlier in the discussion, a couple people mentioned letting your orchid "dry out" for 24-48 hours. Is that something people do specifically for orchids who have major root rot? I'm a semi-newbie, so I just want to make sure I get this straight! So basically what people are saying is that once you un-pot your orchid and find it to be root-rotted, you can clean it up (cut dead roots, bleach bath/Physan/whatever), THEN let it sit out bare-root to dry for a day or so, THEN re-pot in new mix?

    And where exactly does the root hormone come in if you want to try that? (I've got some Dyna-Gro KLN.) Do you soak the potting mix with KLN? Or soak the orchid? For how long? Can you soak the orchid in a Physan/KLN mix...would that still be effective?

    LOL. Ok sorry, but I like to be sure I understand! Thanks so much!

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    You will find a lot of ideas and helpful people here! Im so greatful for this forum!

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