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    Yea, I looked at the two suggested plants and it could be either one! I guess I will wait to see if that other spike blooms to get a look at the flowers.

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    The reason I suggest Zygopetalum over Spathoglottis is that Zygs produce a flower spike before they form a pseudobulb, whereas, I believe, Spathoglottis form spikes after they form p-bulbs. In your photo, it seems the spike is coming from a new growth that doesn't have a p-bulb yet.

    Also, have you been able to find photos of Zyg p-bulbs and Spathoglottis p-bulbs? The Spathoglottis p-bulbs I've seen are usually shorter and rounder than flatter Zyg p-bulbs.

    And thirdly, is your orchid growing in a bark mixture? Around here, at least, the Spath's I've seen are growing in soil.

    I would not call myself an expert, but that is my reasoning. Time will tell one way or the other. There are some really striking Zygapetalum varieties and hybrids. Whatever you've got, I think you were smart to snatch it up!

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    Interesting. The plants spikes are coming from the new growth without Pb. Now the thing that will make it confusing is that it appears that it was being grown in a soil sphag mix. When I was repotting I thought it looked like potting soil. The roots had fill the pot so much I assumed it was just broken down bark. I saw no actual bark only what appeared to have at one time been "potting soil". I repotted in bark, I may have already messed up! Can it be a hybrid of the two? Oh, and another thing that may be of interest, the old p-bulbs in the center of the plant has new growths growing from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ang709 View Post
    The reason I suggest Zygopetalum over Spathoglottis is that Zygs produce a flower spike before they form a pseudobulb, whereas, I believe, Spathoglottis form spikes after they form p-bulbs. In your photo, it seems the spike is coming from a new growth that doesn't have a p-bulb yet.

    Also, have you been able to find photos of Zyg p-bulbs and Spathoglottis p-bulbs? The Spathoglottis p-bulbs I've seen are usually shorter and rounder than flatter Zyg p-bulbs.

    And thirdly, is your orchid growing in a bark mixture? Around here, at least, the Spath's I've seen are growing in soil.

    I would not call myself an expert, but that is my reasoning. Time will tell one way or the other. There are some really striking Zygapetalum varieties and hybrids. Whatever you've got, I think you were smart to snatch it up!

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    I will hazzard that it is not Spath. but go with something in the Onc. Alliance.
    So sorry you lost a spike in the re-potting. Personally I would have left it alone for a while, given it some good care, let it flower, and then repot. That way the plant would have already acclimatised to your conditions, and you would have had a stronger , healthier plant.
    Good luck with it! Looking forward to seeing the bloom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ang709 View Post
    The reason I suggest Zygopetalum over Spathoglottis is that Zygs produce a flower spike before they form a pseudobulb, whereas, I believe, Spathoglottis form spikes after they form p-bulbs. In your photo, it seems the spike is coming from a new growth that doesn't have a p-bulb yet.

    Also, have you been able to find photos of Zyg p-bulbs and Spathoglottis p-bulbs? The Spathoglottis p-bulbs I've seen are usually shorter and rounder than flatter Zyg p-bulbs.

    I agree with Angie

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    I'm not even a vague novice in Zygos, but how is it possible to cross these two? If one is a ground orchid and the other isn't or is it?

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    It still has one spike, Angela. Because the roots were so tight I did not disturb them, I simply placed it into a larger pot and filled the empty space with small bark. Hopefully it will do well and continue blooming. They had it growing outside at the nursury and it was bone dry. I placed it outside under my arbor so the conditions should be the same for it as it was at the nursury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angela View Post
    I will hazzard that it is not Spath. but go with something in the Onc. Alliance.
    So sorry you lost a spike in the re-potting. Personally I would have left it alone for a while, given it some good care, let it flower, and then repot. That way the plant would have already acclimatised to your conditions, and you would have had a stronger , healthier plant.
    Good luck with it! Looking forward to seeing the bloom.

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    I am not aware of a cross between a Zygopetalum and a Spathoglottis. My post was meant to compare and contrast the two genera. Sorry if I made it confusing...

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    I was not confused per se, being that I am new to these two genera and orchids in general, I assumed they could be crossed.

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    was thinking....hmmm....isnt spathoglottis terrestrial.....this shud narrow things downnn....wat is the potting media???

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