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So many online resources severely fabricate flower size

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    Default So many online resources severely fabricate flower size

    Has anyone else noticed this? For instance, on my Rossioglossum Rawdon Jester, it states "6-8 inch flowers". Now, I know damn good and well an 8 inch flower on anything other than a Cattleya (the largest, floofiest type a push) is just asinine, much less an Oncid. type orchid. Seriously, look at ruler and check out how massive 8 inches truly is. This is just an example, though. I see this kind of nonsense everywhere. I just saw specs on a particular dendrobium that claimed the flowers were 3.5 to 4 inches. Again, look at ruler...a 4 inch Dendrobium flower simply doesn't exist, and if it did, it would be quite a new discovery to almost all of us.

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    I actually have a dendrobium that has very large flowers, and the top to bottom measurement is roughly 4 inches. However, yes I know what you mean. My favorite is when they refer to an everyday phal as a "Rare Species". The large flowers though, while possible, if you don't have a greenhouse running on feed schedules, etc...you won't get the same results. And personnally, no plant grows like that every single year...they have their good years and bad...just like people.

    Quote Originally Posted by sand_tiger86 View Post
    Has anyone else noticed this? For instance, on my Rossioglossum Rawdon Jester, it states "6-8 inch flowers". Now, I know damn good and well an 8 inch flower on anything other than a Cattleya (the largest, floofiest type a push) is just asinine, much less an Oncid. type orchid. Seriously, look at ruler and check out how massive 8 inches truly is. This is just an example, though. I see this kind of nonsense everywhere. I just saw specs on a particular dendrobium that claimed the flowers were 3.5 to 4 inches. Again, look at ruler...a 4 inch Dendrobium flower simply doesn't exist, and if it did, it would be quite a new discovery to almost all of us.

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    I agree with Connie. I also have dens and oncidiums that produce quite large flowers when they want to. Key words being when they want to. I also get a laugh out oh the term rare that is so over used. If I see a seller use that term I just keep my wallet in my pocket and keep on looking. Two other terns that I love are award potential and blooms off every new growth.

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    while orchid listings are not quite as fabricated as particular personal ads, something listed as 8 inches had better be eight inches! grrr. one thing i have caught onto is that people show photos of 'blue' orchids that you can tell have been colorshifted to look more blue. often the whole photo will have a blue cast. there are no vandas with blue-green leaves that i've ever seen, and no 'blue' vandas with truly blue flowers. they are all really a shade of purple. some in certain light will look more blue, but in other light will look lavander or purple. like with vanda coerulea. i'm not sure if sellers even know their photos are colorwashed or not, it is so common. i wonder how many other orchid pictures are treated to look more red or whatever?

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    Actually; orchids with "coerulea" in their name will photograph blue. And it isn't really a trick, they just photograph that way. Sometimes with orchids a red orchid will appear pink or orange in photos as well. It is the light exposure and other things that I don't understand. But I do have "blue" orchids, and if the light is right it is something you can see with the naked eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleo View Post
    while orchid listings are not quite as fabricated as particular personal ads, something listed as 8 inches had better be eight inches! grrr. one thing i have caught onto is that people show photos of 'blue' orchids that you can tell have been colorshifted to look more blue. often the whole photo will have a blue cast. there are no vandas with blue-green leaves that i've ever seen, and no 'blue' vandas with truly blue flowers. they are all really a shade of purple. some in certain light will look more blue, but in other light will look lavander or purple. like with vanda coerulea. i'm not sure if sellers even know their photos are colorwashed or not, it is so common. i wonder how many other orchid pictures are treated to look more red or whatever?

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    Any color that the eye, or camera sees, is a direct procuct of the light it is reflecting back - which is why white balance takes into consideration whether you're photographing under incandescent (warmer), fluorescent (cooler), etc. If you have a camera that will allow you to scroll through the different light sources and show them on the LCD, it's fascinating to see how the color can be manipulated. I test the authenticity of my bloom colors by checking the color of the foliage, as well as the trueness of the black background - of course, that's all subject to the quality of the light my eye is seeing - but at least I try to get the eye and the camera roughly correlated. When it comes to digital cameras, as so many of us know, getting the right color for many in the range of pink-purple-indigo is a challenge at best, no matter what setting you use. Phillip and I also see colors somewhat differently, just to make things more complicated - often one of us will think the photo is on-target, while the other one thinks it's totally off. What is it they say about beauty being in the eye of the beholder? I think color is, too.

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    I think a lot of people tend to be senile and blind and have no business using technology in the first place.

    Keep growing your rare, 8 inch, blue orchids, but don't be lyin' to us!

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    Size and color are two good ones, but my pet peeve is the word" fragrant". There is scented and fragrant, fragrant to me means fills the air no work is involved to smell, b. nodosa is fragrant, scented is actively working to detect , often bringing nose in close contact with the flower. I have bought too many called fragrant that I would call mildly scented.

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    First thing, Rossioglossums are not your typical small-flowered oncid. The ones I have seen in person (R. grande and Rawdon Jester) do have flowers reaching 6 inches (15cm). Please Google for more info. And dendrobiums with flower size exceeding 4 inches (10cm) also exist. Almost all well-bloomed plants of Dendrobium Gatton 'Sunray', pulchellum and good clones of anosmum var. superbum will have flowers above 10cm.

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    I try to collect fragrant orchids and have been disappointed. The orchid is advertised as fragrant (I know some varieties lose it in breeding so I check that) but when it blooms, it never produces a fragrance. I even have others smell them throughout the blooming period. How very frustrating!
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