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Why does "summering outdoors" matter?

This is a discussion on Why does "summering outdoors" matter? within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Originally Posted by leafmite In my case, the light is brighter outdoors, the pots are ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leafmite View Post
    In my case, the light is brighter outdoors, the pots are flushed with fresh rain, and there is usually a nice breeze.
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    I have to side with you on this Leafmite since that's the reason I started moving my plants to the outside area . I checked them today and we have had a lot of rain recently since we are in the rainy season here and they seem pretty happy but also to jump back to what Kelly was saying , maybe in this post or in another one don't remember , I have some that seem really eager to please and then I have others in the same area that have come only so far and kinda paused . That's precisely why I agreed that Kelly had some good questions . Why would they come that far and then at the stage you think your gonna get a spike they kinda go .......aaahhh..... I don't know ? Why would they do that you think if they are outside and summering ?

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    I just recently put my plants outside because my indoor area was getting overcrowded...not sure why I didn't think of it sooner...several of them are already definitely in "YAY!!" mode since being put out! Not sure if it's the humid air, the breeze, the rainwater, the temperature differentials, or all of it...but I would say they definitely KNOW they're outdoors.

    Now I wish I had put them out back in June...I would probably have some sun-lovers in bloom right now if I had. Oh well...I'll at least make the most of whatever warm weather we have left, and next year they'll definitely be going out earlier! (Well, all except my large phal collection, that is...the phals are SO happy indoors that I don't want to mess with a system that's been working perfectly! LOL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by orchidsal View Post
    I can only say that in New Mexico there is no way of "summering" outdoors or at practically any time of year..............................AL
    Why may I ask , Al, can't you have the orchids outdoors ?

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    This is what's known as the High Desert. I am at 5400 feet. The lowest point in this state is 2800 feet above sea level. That all means some extreme temperatures and usually little humidity.................try as low as 5% relative humidity. At this elevation we are closer to the sun so that in and of itself can be hard on plants. Summers are 85 to 100 degrees F. right here and average even higher just five or ten miles away. We are suppose to have a 'Monsoon Season', but the last good one was about five years ago. We have had drought since. This year we have 'isolated thunderstorms' and you really never know if your getting a bit of rain till it actually happens. If we get alot of cloud cover in the summer relative humidity can rise and if it rains alot of course it rises to high levels that plants love. The only problem here is when the storms move in the winds almost invariably pick up to 25 to 50 miles an hour sending hanging plants sailing.................Winter is just plain to cold...............0 degrees F. to days in the 30's to 50's F. and dry! Spring is mild temps. and usually dry. Winds in March and April are really bad at 25 to 70 miles an hour..............Fall is much like spring. I have seen potted roses bloom up to Thanksgiving, but its a very dry time of year with little humidity. I usually wouldn't be this lengthy, but I thought I would give everybody a glimpse of a rather unique cllimate and why the greenhouse is near essential for so many orchids. I have had to create my own micro-climate Nicole. AL
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    AL.... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MOVE!!!!
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    I have considered moving and may do so one of these days......................I loved Oregon! Naoki if your seeing this I think you live in a wonderful place! Loved my years there. Why I am here is a long story for some dark and deary night.....................At least my orchids really seem unique and special out here. The nearest and probably only Orchid Society in New Mexico is over three hours drive away in Albuquerque. There is one Orchid nursery in the entire state up in Santa Fe and it's only two years old or so. The orchids in the greenhouse seem very settled and happy! (Knock on wood mounts). At least this post should show growers in other areas what advantages they truly have. AL

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    I like this one
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    AL.... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MOVE!!!!
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    Thanks very much for the mini geographic summary Al, it was quite informative . I understand a little bit more about where you live now. Sorry that your area is not exactly orchid utopia but you seem to have created your own little oasis in the desert and that's something to be proud of .
    Can I ask though would it be costly to operate a greenhouse there ? Since the outside temps and atmosphere are so extreme ?

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    The evaporative Cooler in the summer does not use the electricity nearly as much as refrigerated air conditioing does, so in that sense no. The humidifiers (3) also don't use a ton of electric, so thats fairly reasonable to. In winter the heat costs more $$$ and the humidifiers work much harder and I go through alot of humidifier wick filters that cost also. Yes Nicole I admitt to really enjoying my "little oasis' and you couldn't of put that better. Really I can think of worse climates by far to live in, but 'orchid country' in the tropical, warm growing sense this is not. There are some small native orchids here as in most places. Pretty demure, small flowers though and pretty tough plants at that!

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    For me, aside from access to more/more varied light, the biggest advantage to summering outdoors has to do with my culture habits and available time. When plants are outside I can water and fertilize everything in about 20-30 minutes, whereas my indoor growing setup requires mostly individual and small group watering so getting to the whole collection is a multi-hour proposition. I also see far less rot (crown rot, fungal issues etc) when plants are outside, I suppose because of the greater air movement. All of which tells me I really just need a greenhouse...

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