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This is a discussion on Why does "summering outdoors" matter? within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Originally Posted by gnathaniel For me, aside from access to more/more varied light, the biggest ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnathaniel View Post
    For me, aside from access to more/more varied light, the biggest advantage to summering outdoors has to do with my culture habits and available time. When plants are outside I can water and fertilize everything in about 20-30 minutes, whereas my indoor growing setup requires mostly individual and small group watering so getting to the whole collection is a multi-hour proposition. I also see far less rot (crown rot, fungal issues etc) when plants are outside, I suppose because of the greater air movement. All of which tells me I really just need a greenhouse...
    Same in Atlanta - my catts and encyclias love it - wish I could move my paphs and phrags out there as well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by orchidsal View Post
    I have considered moving and may do so one of these days......................I loved Oregon! Naoki if your seeing this I think you live in a wonderful place! Loved my years there. Why I am here is a long story for some dark and deary night.....................At least my orchids really seem unique and special out here. The nearest and probably only Orchid Society in New Mexico is over three hours drive away in Albuquerque. There is one Orchid nursery in the entire state up in Santa Fe and it's only two years old or so. The orchids in the greenhouse seem very settled and happy! (Knock on wood mounts). At least this post should show growers in other areas what advantages they truly have. AL
    Hi, Al. You must love RAIN and dark, dark winter months. In fact, as we change time ( Fall Back ), everything seems to turn 'dark'. I never knew the number of the way to explain RAIN; drizzle, sprinkle, misty, scattered shower, shower, etc. LOL I am not much a nature lover, either. In fact, the nature does not like me. HOWEVER, summer in Oregon is nice, I must admit. Low humidity and not-so-much high temperature.
    After having lived in Oregon for the last 24 years since I moved from Japan, I am soooooooooooooo ready to move. Mike and I are almost certain to move to FL in 5 years. Although Mike can retire anytime, I must work even after we move there. **sigh**

    As for summering my plants outside, unfortunately, since I do not have big enough space to hang my Vandas, I never tried it.

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    Yes Naoki I don't mind the rain to much. In fact it makes Oregon as green and lush as it is! I love nature and a general atmosphere of live and let live that I found in Oregon. I really do understand where your coming from though and I know lots of people who feel the same way you do! AL

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    I grow my cymbidiums outside during the summer bringing them in right before the first frost around October 15.

    cheers,
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    Chino Valley is a lot like Al's area, it get's over 100 for a few months (5 or 6), and the winters aren't any better. I can't do the greenhouse right now ( medical bills and all) so it is a great challenge to grow orchids. If my daughter hadn't given me one for a gift I don't think I would have tried to grow them. I would have just stuck to ordinary houseplants, and let my husband put the machete by the door with it's usual warning that you would need it to enter. As it is he has taken it down and is trying to figure out how to re-word his sign. I have lost many orchids, mostly noid phals. I would have to drive over two hundred miles to find anything but grocery store phals. I have been able to get a few different kinds through the mail, and so far I have had some luck keeping them alive. I am working up the nerve to mount a couple phals and see if they will do better that way.

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    being in zone 10b, i', more apt to 'winter indoors' than 'summer outdoors' really. i pull a few inside in mid-november until late march or april. there is little info that is concise, but i think a large amount of orchids can live here outdoors if you give them enough shelter from sun and wind. i get some cold nights in the low 40s, and some highs around 100 sometimes. but only a few weeks of either. as long as i avoid 'warm to hot growing' orchids, i do ok. 'intermediate to warm' i can pull in for about 3 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutal_Dreamer View Post
    I grow my cymbidiums outside during the summer bringing them in right before the first frost around October 15.

    cheers,
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    Your first frost is usually that early?!

    That's crazy for a neighboring state. We're lucky if we get a frost in January!

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    I remember Dee the first Phalaenopsis I purchased over six years ago. I am sure I killed the poor thing with overpotting it and over watering it also. With Vandas it was the exact opposite. The higher humidity I managed though the humidifers I bought locally sucked (Not much available here). I remember being told that I could get away with watering Vandas every two to three days if I put them in pots with various media. I am sure I wanted to believe this, but for me it simply was not true and sooner or later they died. Of the original Vandaceous types I purchased five/six years ago six of the eight are dead. I have gone through my share of frustration and over worrying, so I know how you feel. At least we don't live in Minnesota where in a bad winter the heating bills alone could be outrageous (as beautiful as that state is). Even without a greenhouse please hang in there! It will get better and if you ask me if its all worth it..............................YES ABSOLUTELY!!! THANKS FOR YOUR POST!! AL

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeann View Post
    Chino Valley is a lot like Al's area, it get's over 100 for a few months (5 or 6), and the winters aren't any better. I can't do the greenhouse right now ( medical bills and all) so it is a great challenge to grow orchids. If my daughter hadn't given me one for a gift I don't think I would have tried to grow them. I would have just stuck to ordinary houseplants, and let my husband put the machete by the door with it's usual warning that you would need it to enter. As it is he has taken it down and is trying to figure out how to re-word his sign. I have lost many orchids, mostly noid phals. I would have to drive over two hundred miles to find anything but grocery store phals. I have been able to get a few different kinds through the mail, and so far I have had some luck keeping them alive. I am working up the nerve to mount a couple phals and see if they will do better that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orchidsal View Post
    I remember being told that I could get away with watering Vandas every two to three days if I put them in pots with various media. I am sure I wanted to believe this, but for me it simply was not true and sooner or later they died. Of the original Vandaceous types I purchased five/six years ago six of the eight are dead. AL
    Hey Al! I was told the same thing, too...that my Vandas did not need to be watered more than once every 2-3 days. WRONG. If I had them in a moisture-retaining media, the roots began rotting like it was their full-time job. Then I moved them to mounts, where they were just as miserable, and the roots I had left ended up shriveling up into little brown things that looked like they could be substituted for the fried onions on top of a Thanksgiving green bean casserole.

    Finally, out of desperation, I tried vase culture, and that has turned out to be the magic cure for my Vandas! Even the ones that had almost no roots left perked up when they got in the vases, and now I've got fresh root growth and new top growth on all of them. I think it's next to impossible to get the humidity these plants require in an indoor setting...not unless you want mold growing on your walls...but the vase culture gets around the humidity problem by keeping the humidity high around the roots of the plants. Even if the surrounding air is dry as a desert, the vandas will be okay because of the humidity in the vases.

    Even so, I've found it necessary to soak my plants daily, for a period of about 4 hours during the hottest part of the day when the sun is shining on them directly. Otherwise the leaves start to crinkle from the bottom up.

    Have you ever tried vase culture? I guess it's kind of high-maintenance, but then again, Vandas are by nature high-maintenance plants. At least they're growing. I'm hoping for some spikes this summer (my Vanda coerulea's spike blasted after a week of no sun here in PA...I nearly cried. I have since employed artificial lights).

    I think you could do the same over the summer...put your Vandas in vases outdoors to enjoy the sunshine. This will be my first summer having the Vandas outside in their vases. I am going to experiment a bit with how much sun they like...I just want to make sure I don't fry the roots inside those glass vases! Wish me luck! LOL

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