i've been looking at renanthera hybrids, as they can handle more sun, i have a sunny spot on the balcony that needs orchids that can take it, and now that i find 'renanthera imshootiana' can handle my winters (maybe) i have to give it a shot. they have been making some interesting hybrids with renanthera and vandas, and even neofinetias lately... i wonder how well imshootiana will impart its (supposed) himalayan cold tolerance? there is a cross with v. cristata that i simply must own! i saw a bloom that looked like a pale red v. paki!!!!! but people keep outbidding me! argh!