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  • Mostly noids. I love noids...or it's the only choice...

    12 5.04%
  • Many noids. I tend to lean on the side of noids for some reasons.

    3 1.26%
  • Don't care. I see an orchid, I like it, I buy it. Noid or not doesn't influence me.

    96 40.34%
  • Some noids. Unless the noid is exceptional, I still stick to labeled 'chids.

    91 38.24%
  • No noids. I don't ever buy nameless orchids. Too much confusion and this and that...

    36 15.13%
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Poll about Noids

This is a discussion on Poll about Noids within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; An attempt to post a photo...this is NOT my plant but a photo I saved, ...

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    An attempt to post a photo...this is NOT my plant but a photo I saved, if this works it ties into a NOID question I have

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    When I started out I bought whatever I could find - which usually meant NOID big box phals. Now I am more particular about what I buy, and look for a tag even at big box stores (which I try to avoid as much as possible). Unless it's an exceptional flower, I won't buy it without a tag.

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    I was hemming and hawing between 'Don't care' and 'Some NoIds'. I bought 'Death's door' noids and out of bloom orchids in the beginning because they were...well, cheap. Can't feel bad if you killed some thing that was already mostly dead, or so I thought till I realised that I still had them 6 months later. I ended up picking 'Some noids' cause I like being able to say what I have and get some care instructions from you guys. However, if it is in bloom and gets my heart a-flutterin', and in my price range, I'ma buying it, tag or no.

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    Relating to the catt in the photo I posted a few up, it was auctioned by an online vendor a few months back. There seemed tp be plenty of interest in it, and it went for a fair bit. The interesting thing is that it is a second generation NOID. The seller was the breeder apparently and was honest about it; they had it and another with the parentage listed as 'NOID x (whatever)'.
    I first looked because the coloring is rather unique in my limited experience (assuming no retouched photos?); I've only seen yellow/whites similar. I was surprised at the amount of interest in a NOID though. So my question is, how do people feel about someone using NOIDs in a breeding program, as long as the breeder is honest about the NOID status? What if someone had a plant that was NOID, but displayed some truly great new mutation/trait? Should they work with it, or 'oh well it's just a NOID' toss it (figuratively of course)? What about after many generations of crossing to known plants and the original NOID's genes are probably pretty much gone? What if/is there DNA typing that can narrow it down to genus/genera in its background, or even species?
    I've seen NOIDs in show displays; should a truly exceptional NOID be eligible for some recognition? (CCM perhaps, not HCC/AM/FCC) Thinking more along the lines of something unofficial just from the hosting society.
    I'm not a breeder or exhibitor, these are just questions that popped into my head from that catt and made me wonder how i felt about it, let alone other people. I come from a background of registered purebred animals, and I've seen many of the pros and cons on both sides of that issue. Guess that doesn't quite relate to hybrid plants though.
    Also makes me wonder how many NOIDs we purchase as labelled plants, whether due to a less than honest seller or to help in the greenhouse losing labels and sticking anything that may work on it.

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    You have a good point, pips. I've seen some really nice NOIDs at shows as well. And there's really nothing wrong with having them! For me, it's more of wanting to know its background so I can care for the plant as best as possible. If there's testing that returns genus/parentage/whatever that would be awesome and I think totally acceptable. Nothing wrong with breeding/selling NOIDs as long as you're honest about it - imho.

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    I buy NOID plants to give to others and spread the addiction!

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    i have a ton of noid phal and dorit hybrids. and a few oncidiums i bought from an old lady selling divisions of 'dancing lady flower' online from her garden here locally. but mostly i order things online that interest me. we have a nice local shop with a great selection, but they never label anything. so i don't buy a whole lot of things there unless i think i can id them. i try to focus on things that can live outdoors here, and knowing a plant's parentage can tip you off on how to best grow it, so i prefer to know what i am buying.

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    This is very interesting, so thanks for organising it. I have never been a member of a majority before! Even now it is a majority only by a whisker, and may be overtaken as more members vote...

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    I came upon this thread and was about to post my opinion when I realized not only had I already voted in this poll, but I had actually started this entire thread 7 years ago. It is quite unbelievable how quickly time flies, and how sentiments towards NOIDs evolve over time! I know 7 years ago I had stated that I do not care whether a plant is a NOID or not. Now I rarely ever buy NOIDs. That being said, I do frequent local grocery stores for great NOIDs at reasonable prices, but only for the sake of giving the plants as presents to my non-orchid growing friends. I know my friends would rather have a blooming miltonia NOID than a "bunch of leaves on a stick with a label containing undecipherable Latin gibberish" (my friend's reaction at seeing my mounted mini species).

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    I just buyy what catches my eye. I like rescuing Phals, so I sometimes buy the sad ones that are marked down - IF I see its past flowering, but reasonbly hopeful of a good outcome. I have one Phal that has an ID and it was given to me by my neighbor as a half dead rescue. It's doing well, but hasn't bloomed in the 18 months I've had it. Sounded really pretty though! Where I live there aren't any Orchid stores nearby to tempt me with labelled plants, I get what I come across that appeals to me.

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