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Sudden burst of aerial roots on my Phal.

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    Hey Kelly can I ask why don't you count phals ?
    I personally haven't had anything going on with mine except what you described , ( lot's of root and leaf growth ) , no signs of any spiking in any of them . I seem to be having better luck with the dens . I have 3 spiking and one that had spiked already throwing out 2 more spikes . I didn't even know this one would be a multi-spiker .
    I also have a catt that flowered earlier this year and I was not expecting another blooming till next year and it just got done blooming again and now I see a new growth coming . At the same time I have another catt that has had a sheath since before the other one and it still remains empty. I say all this to say , in my very limited experience , orchids seem very temperamental and just wanna do what they wanna do . They remind me of cats , if they want to be petted they come close, then there are other times when they just have no use for you .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sand_tiger86 View Post
    Well, my suspicion was (thankfully!) correct. I had a feeling that once it started putting out all these aerial roots, it was preparing to spike...and lo and behold, it now has two spikes going! I was really shooting for two this year, and all the new leaves and roots it put out seem to have paid off.
    Two spikes!! WOOT WOOT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yvonni View Post
    Hey Kelly can I ask why don't you count phals ?
    I personally haven't had anything going on with mine except what you described , ( lot's of root and leaf growth ) , no signs of any spiking in any of them . I seem to be having better luck with the dens . I have 3 spiking and one that had spiked already throwing out 2 more spikes . I didn't even know this one would be a multi-spiker .
    I also have a catt that flowered earlier this year and I was not expecting another blooming till next year and it just got done blooming again and now I see a new growth coming . At the same time I have another catt that has had a sheath since before the other one and it still remains empty. I say all this to say , in my very limited experience , orchids seem very temperamental and just wanna do what they wanna do . They remind me of cats , if they want to be petted they come close, then there are other times when they just have no use for you .
    I said that I don't count Phals in jest (sort of lol). They're just so simple for me...they practically spike and bloom with complete neglect. I guess it's the light that's so easy. They don't need much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sand_tiger86 View Post
    I said that I don't count Phals in jest (sort of lol). They're just so simple for me...they practically spike and bloom with complete neglect. I guess it's the light that's so easy. They don't need much.
    I'm glad yours blooms so reliably! Getting them to rebloom seems to be the trickiest part for most people, and I think it's the reason most give up on them after a while. I've found that reblooming them just requires a little patience. I give them a "break" after the spikes are spent. I give them less light for a while and water a little less, then I move them back into the higher light after a month or two, and bam...new spikes within a month or so.

    Glad yours is such a reliable bloomer! You must be giving it ideal conditions!

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    I *think* there is a slight misconception with phals regarding light in particular. They're always deemed as low-light orchids, which leads people to think they can stick it in an Eastern, or Northern window. While this might work for some, I have run a test. This particular plant is a twin - there were two in the same pot when I bought it. I kept one for myself, and gave one to my grandmother. Hers is in a NW window, and mine is directly W. While hers hasn't died and is doing fine, it has only grown two leaves since last fall and isn't exactly thriving. Mine, on the other hand, has grown at least 7 new leaves, countless roots (both aerial and otherwise) and is putting out two spikes. It just goes to show that maybe Phals aren't as "low light" as some would believe. Mine absolutely thrive in a warm Western window with blaring direct sunlight in the afternoon. So I guess I'll alter my previous statement that they don't need much light - they do fine in little light, but they thrive in strong light.

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    Well I don't know what I am doing wrong or not doing right . I moved mine outside a few months now and besides the growth , (which they were still doing inside in a NE facing window ), not much else to report . Outside they get from sunrise till about 11:00 to 11:30 , no direct sun but more light than they would have had in the window .

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    Quote Originally Posted by yvonni View Post
    Well I don't know what I am doing wrong or not doing right . I moved mine outside a few months now and besides the growth , (which they were still doing inside in a NE facing window ), not much else to report . Outside they get from sunrise till about 11:00 to 11:30 , no direct sun but more light than they would have had in the window .
    What about temperature drops? Mine didn't spike until the temperatures when from 80's during the day to 50's-60's at night. They really do need a bit of a cold snap at night for a couple of weeks to initiate spikes.

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    Right about now , don't see that happening yet . Maybe in Dec or Jan maybe and it won't be significant either but it seems it's enough even here (so I've been told by the sellers and Angela said that's when hers start doing their thing )guess I'll have to have a bit more patience then

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    Quote Originally Posted by yvonni View Post
    Well I don't know what I am doing wrong or not doing right . I moved mine outside a few months now and besides the growth , (which they were still doing inside in a NE facing window ), not much else to report . Outside they get from sunrise till about 11:00 to 11:30 , no direct sun but more light than they would have had in the window .
    Are you fertilizing regularly? Sometimes if you keep giving it a high-nitrogen fertilizer, you might actually be discouraging your plant from flowering...nitrogen encourages lots of leaf growth but it doesn't necessarily promote flowering. When I give my plants a "break," I back off on the fertilizer as well. I like to think this helps the plant to redirect its energy into deciding to flower. I know you're not supposed to fertilize when a plant is IN flower, because it can actually cause the plant to drop flowers (I accidentally did this once) for the purpose of growing lots of new leaves. So, basically when you fertilize with a high-nitrogen fertilizer, you're telling your plant to "Grow, grow, grow more leaves!!" This doesn't leave a lot of energy left for flowering. If you've been doing a lot of fertilizing, perhaps you could try giving your plants a break for a couple of months. Or you could switch to a "bloom-boosting" formula that has less nitrogen. Personally, I prefer to back off on the fert. completely.

    Not sure if that will help your situation or not, but hey, it's worth a shot, right? Good luck, Nicole! Hope your phals flower for you!

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