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This is a Cattleya Orchid but what kind?

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    Default This is a Cattleya Orchid but what kind?

    I could not find the abbreviation Otr. in the species listings, what have "they" renamed?

    Otr.(Maui Maid x Doctor Joe Walker) 'Paradise', it is a prretty little thing.

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    Otr = Otaara (At least last I knew.)

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    Otaara (Otr.) was Brassavola x Broughtonia x Cattleya x Laelia, but with more recent changes there may not be any hybrids that actually have that ancestry. Your plant would now be considered (Rly.) Rhyntonleya (Broughtonia x Cattleya x Rhyncholaelia). The cross does not appear to be registered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaphMadMan View Post
    Otaara (Otr.) was Brassavola x Broughtonia x Cattleya x Laelia, but with more recent changes there may not be any hybrids that actually have that ancestry. Your plant would now be considered (Rly.) Rhyntonleya (Broughtonia x Cattleya x Rhyncholaelia). The cross does not appear to be registered.
    What exactly does " not appear to be registered" mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    What exactly does " not appear to be registered" mean?
    This means that the crossing, Maui Maid x Doctor Joe Walker hasn't been formally named & registered with the Royal Horticultural Society, who hold the registry for orchid naming. If its not registered & name published by them, it doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    This means that the crossing, Maui Maid x Doctor Joe Walker hasn't been formally named & registered with the Royal Horticultural Society, who hold the registry for orchid naming. If its not registered & name published by them, it doesn't exist.
    Poor little orchid it has no birth certificate

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    But how can you tell? Guess I'll ask the seller. Does it take awhile to get it registered?

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    The cross should be named/registered by the hybridist which my not be the seller. The seller may know who made the cross if it wasn't them. You would, by rights, get written permission from the hybridist to register a name for the cross, fill in some paperwork from the RHS, pay a fee on lodgement of the paperwork then wait. I don't think it takes all that long. The info you would need can be found on this website, hopefully allowable to post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    What exactly does " not appear to be registered" mean?
    I phrased it that way because it is not currently in the International Orchid Register website database, but it is always possible that it is a recent registration. Last time I said "it isn't registered" I got beat up when someone found the name on the website a few weeks later when the database was updated. I guess no matter what I write someone will throw a fit.

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    I had to register a Paph. cross last year for the AOS to accept it and award it an HCC/AOS. I made a reasonable effort to find out who "originated" the cross, but was unable to. If you can't find the hybridist, you still can register it as an unknown. It's really not all that difficult, or expensive, and the real fun is that you then get to name the grex yourself!

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