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Opps I did it again :(

This is a discussion on Opps I did it again :( within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; That's interesting Jason. I moved my phal (and phal like plant) up to the my ...

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    That's interesting Jason. I moved my phal (and phal like plant) up to the my third floor west window today (yes, trying to generate room, hopeless, I am!) and it is the warmest room in the house. Western windown. Will see how they do here!

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    All my Phals do with higher light is make smaller leaves. It looks kind of funny but you can tell the years of plentiful light and lower light by looking at the foliage on my Phals.

    A while ago I gave all my Phal hybrids away. They weren't half dead but I got kicked from the GW because I made a contest and the winner got the Phals. Actually, I made about 6 contests. Stuff like, who has the best story of killing a plant or Why should I give you this plant? Stuff like that. I did manage to give away about 25 plants before I got kicked.

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    Originally posted by Gilda

    I wonder if I had not been able to grow them (seeing a phal was my first orchid) ,if my interest in orchids would have survived??



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    Good thing that wasn't the case for me. My BF bought me my first orchid. It was infected with mealies and scale. What did he kbnow (Or what did I know?) If I let me first (few) experiences bring me down, I'd given up lng ago. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that if someone tells me I can't, I will just to do the neener neener dance.

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    Persistance,
    Does higher light affect the phal blooms ? Mine are getting a lot more light this year....I don't want smaller blooms!

    You must have had the contest about the time GW got hit by the virus in their banner ad. (March 27) The virus ruined my computer, and I haven't been back.

    I don't need a forum that doesn't watch out for their members.

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    Not discouraged by my phal either! Made me want more things in bloom (tho not exactly phals!) and it was all down hill from there. Had a b'zillion blooms. I am going to post a pic of my dtps. in a day or so - it has one bud left to open, one already bit it, but if this last one opens, I'll have 20 open at once. I like the dtps. hybrids better than the phals. The upright/smaller bloom nature is somehow more appealing to me. The big blooms, while quite spectacular, well, I think I like many smaller better.
    Anyway, I am rambling again.

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    No, I was kicked some time ago. Well, I have been kicked about 4 times. Apparently, you can't give plants away there. One time Spike thought I owned a nursery and said I was spamming. LOL I told him to call the nursery to talk to the owner but he refused and just kicked me.

    High light and Phals. Some Phals react to higher light by having the leaves turn red. this is fine as long as they do not sunburn but when you are giving them this high light the plants can determine that they do not need the size of leaf that was previously needed to get the amount of light the plant needs to bloom. that's when the new leaves will be smaller than the previous leaves. This does not effect the blooms at all. what does effect the blooms is the health of the plant as well as letting the plant regrow a new spike from an old spike. this depletes resources of a smaller plant and the next years blooms wll not be as numerous.

    There are many types of Phal hybrids and many types of blooms. Some hold small spikes for months and even years to bloom off of them continiously and others just for a few months. Some species have spikes that continue to grow and bloom. Depending on the cross, it can be hard to generalize whether an old spike should be cut off after flowering to give it maximum yield of flowers for the following year.

    did that make sense?

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    Perfect sense about the light and leaves....



    Now, about cutting the spike....I have cut all my spikes this year in hopes of having more and bigger blooms...that said ,no one cuts them in the wild,so does this only apply to hybrids?

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    I have limited experience with phal species, but I do know that equestris tends to bloom continuously on the same spike for a long time, with maybe 5-10 open at the same time. New ones open as the oldest drop off. I assume they end sometime on their own, but I had a young plant and cut the spike off after a while to conserve energy. The same is true of Phal x intermedia, the natural hybrid of equestris & aphrodite.

    Back when I grew some phal hybrids, I always cut the spike off after blooming. While I can see how cutting back to the 2nd node would be nice (plant blooming for 5 months of the year), I always preferred to cut back entirely to save energy for the next year's blooming (i.e. induce the plant to start growing leaves), and also because the secondary spike was never nearly as aesthetically pleasing as the sloping arch of the first spike.

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    In the wild the plants have the conditions they need. The perfect amount of light the plant requires to grow and bloom each year. the plant also does not change locations and depending on the species the spike may not shrivel up. The fact that a plant will regrow a new spike froma cut or broken one is just a survival instinct. Flowers must be made so the species will continue despite the health of the plant. this is why many near death Phals will throw one last spike up in order to perpetuate the species. Too bad we all could not go like that!

    Most of your generic white and pink Phals should have the spikes cut all the way down to the bottom to allow the plant to grow another leaf before respiking the following year. This is a recommended procedure. Most of those hybrids are made with the Phal species that does not have spikes that stay all year long.

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    I'm trying to decide what to do w/ my Dtps. when if finishes. It's one of the pretty upright ones, and I love the look of the sprays - very elegant and pleasing. Part of me wants to play w/ cutting near the lowest node, just because I've not done it before. My other phal was sick and needed the spikes to be cut, but this one I might play with. I do understand what Jason is saying about the lovely arching though. That makes me want to cut!

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