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Orchids that are mounted but shouldn't be - how to manage?

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    Default Orchids that are mounted but shouldn't be - how to manage?

    I have two Phalaenopses that arrived with me from the seller nicely mounted - one on cork and the other on wood. They are established on their mounts, with roots well attached. The problem is that my environment is not suitable for mounted Phals, and I'm wondering how best to manage them...

    Mounted Phals need either very high humidity and regular water, or medium humidity and daily water. My environment is drier. Also, I can't put the Phals outdoors, where it's so much easier to water them, for half of the year because temperatures are too low for them ... and because they'd dry out even faster.

    So it's a real pain in the whatsie! It's so impractical having mounted plants indoors that need daily water most of the time and twice daily in the Summer heat. What to do?

    I've tried wrapping layers of extra sphagnum moss around them, which doesn't look great and only helps marginally because sphagnum left open to the air dehydrates very fast.

    Any ideas pease?

    Thanks !

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    How low is your humidity? If you willing water them morning/afternoon I think phals will adjust to your environment.
    In my home humidity over winter was about 20% on average and i have vanda growing with no media and it managed to flower, but i did watered it in mornings and late afternoons. Summer it spent outside with also twicely watering. In winter i was just soaking it in bucket ,let it drain and hooked on its place amd in summer it was getting water from the hose. Yes, its inconvenient but doable.
    I did mounted few phals recently. I think i put more moss than they usually put on mount. I spray them every morning till moss get wet but not soaking wet so water is dripping from it, if it hot day and moss dry by evening i also spray at the evening. So far they doing ok.

    If its really pain for you water them daily than you can dismount them and pot in pots. To dismount You will have to soak them until roots will let you pull them from mount.

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    I have one mounted phal. I water it once a day. I live in dry metro Denver Colorado. I did have it outside this summer and did water 2 times a day usually. It seems to be doing ok. It is adding a new leaf right now.

    If you are having too much trouble with it, I'd be happy to take care of it for you! Otherwise, as Svetlana said, soak them for a while to loosen the roots and then carefully separate them from the mount. If you can wait until a new root is just popping out, that may help ensure you have a viable roots after removing it from the mount.

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    Delila, which species is that? Some Phal species are more difficult in pots. For example, if your Phal is from subgenus Aphyllae (e.g. P. wilsonii), most people would grow them mounted. I wouldn't say that it is impossible because I have seen someone growing them in pots. But some of them don't make lots of leaves, and it is better for the roots to contribute to photosynthesis. But if it isn't from this section, I would remove from the mount and put it in the media you are accustomed to.

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    Here's a couple of ways of "converting" mounts to pots, without ever disturbing the plant:

    1. Set the mount in a large pot, surround the lower part of the mount and roots with potting medium.
    2. Cut a large plastic pot in half, vertically. Using wire or staples, attach the pot to the mount, so it encompasses the lower part, and fill with potting medium.


    Personally, I prefer the second option with net pots, as they can still be hung up, saving bench space, and I think it's best to use loose sphagnum in either case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raybark View Post
    Here's a couple of ways of "converting" mounts to pots, without ever disturbing the plant:

    1. Set the mount in a large pot, surround the lower part of the mount and roots with potting medium.
    2. Cut a large plastic pot in half, vertically. Using wire or staples, attach the pot to the mount, so it encompasses the lower part, and fill with potting medium.


    Personally, I prefer the second option with net pots, as they can still be hung up, saving bench space, and I think it's best to use loose sphagnum in either case.
    Can this be used with other mounted plants too not just Phals? I have my Zelenkoa onusta bare root mount on a pine bark but in my conditions it dries too quickly) basically I have to water 3 times a day guess). I was thinking of various options:
    a) dismount and grow it in a pot (right now with these temperatures here I have to water my mini oncidium in pots 1x day, but it's still better than bare root mount!)
    b) keep on the mount but cover the roots with some sphagnum, though i don't know if this would help or if the plant will like it)
    c) try your method of semi-grown in pots without dismounting it.

    Here is a pic of the plant



    Anyone? Need a little help here, especially onusta growers!

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    What Ray said, but option 1. Shorten the mount above or below the plant if practical.

    And it can certainly be done with any mounted plant.

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