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    I will be using rain water and Kelpmax. Thank you

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    You get rain up there in Canada?
    They only made it legal to capture and store rainwater in Colorado on Aug 1, 2016. Prior to that date, all rain was considered owned by those who have the water rights for a particular area. Water is a scarce commodity in the Western US. People have been killed over water here.

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    Hope I'm not too late, but 1 tablespoon/gallon (4 ml/L) is the appropriate dose.

    KelpMax is just loaded with stuff that can be beneficial to the plant, including plant- and root-growth hormones, amino acids, vitamins, and a small amount of nutrient ions. It can be nothing but beneficial to the plants.

    After the soak and potting up, water-in the plants with it, and add it to the next two waterings. After that, add it no more than once a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raybark View Post
    Hope I'm not too late, but 1 tablespoon/gallon (4 ml/L) is the appropriate dose.

    KelpMax is just loaded with stuff that can be beneficial to the plant, including plant- and root-growth hormones, amino acids, vitamins, and a small amount of nutrient ions. It can be nothing but beneficial to the plants.

    After the soak and potting up, water-in the plants with it, and add it to the next two waterings. After that, add it no more than once a month.
    Thank you Ray! Don't tell anyone but I was waiting for your input. Same schedule for the ones I'm mounting? Do you always use that ratio? Can I store it for a week? The bottle says 1 Tsp per gallon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 78Terp View Post
    You get rain up there in Canada?
    They only made it legal to capture and store rainwater in Colorado on Aug 1, 2016. Prior to that date, all rain was considered owned by those who have the water rights for a particular area. Water is a scarce commodity in the Western US. People have been killed over water here.
    LOL Only recently. So, like mining rights?

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    Rain water is my favorite tonic. The monsoons started late but now my 60 gallon rain barrel is always full. I have about 50 gallons (so far) stored in the house for winter. All of my house plants get flushed this time of year and are responding with lush green growth. The orchids love it. I read that rain water has nitrogen in it which is why outdoor plants look so good after a rain. The rain barrel also probably contains some micronutrients and microbes. I can't believe they make collecting rain water illegal but then I own the water and mineral rights here.

    Have fun rehabilitating these orchids.

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    I am not quite sure of Nitrogen in rain water. Rain water is purer (~10-30 TDS) and pH is around 6.5-7 which helps the plant. Nitrogen might be present if there are bird droppings or some thing rich in nitrogen it comes in contact with in the atmosphere. am I missing something?

    Quote Originally Posted by sciencegal View Post
    Rain water is my favorite tonic. The monsoons started late but now my 60 gallon rain barrel is always full. I have about 50 gallons (so far) stored in the house for winter. All of my house plants get flushed this time of year and are responding with lush green growth. The orchids love it. I read that rain water has nitrogen in it which is why outdoor plants look so good after a rain. The rain barrel also probably contains some micronutrients and microbes. I can't believe they make collecting rain water illegal but then I own the water and mineral rights here.

    Have fun rehabilitating these orchids.

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    Looks so interesting Chris I wish all the best result with the advised given to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksriramkumar View Post
    I am not quite sure of Nitrogen in rain water. Rain water is purer (~10-30 TDS) and pH is around 6.5-7 which helps the plant. Nitrogen might be present if there are bird droppings or some thing rich in nitrogen it comes in contact with in the atmosphere. am I missing something?
    Only one of many sources on this.

    2004 study of the chemical composition of rainwater at 48 sites in 31 states found nitrates in nearly all the samples, although there was a high degree of variation in both time and space. Several studies in the 1990s showed that locations along the coast of the Gulf of Mexico could expect to get 18 pounds of ammonium and nitrates per acre per year from rainwater. That's about a tenth of typical nitrogen requirements for growing crops.

    Because rainwater contains nitrogen in forms that plants can absorb, and plants need nitrogen to grow, farmers have noticed that rainwater stimulates more plant growth than water from other sources. That's good, in that farmers don't need to apply as much artificial fertilizer. However, in some cases human activities result in an excess of nitrogen in rainwater. That has the effect of throwing off the balance in some fragile ecosystems where some plants -- typically algae -- that are normally limited by a lack of nitrogen now have enough extra nitrogen from rainwater to choke out other organisms.
    Plus the energy from lightning will bond nitrogen to the oxygen in water. Our rain comes along with severe thunder storms so I think it has a higher level of nitrogen. I can water my garden all day long but it never looks better than after a thunderstorm.

    This report gives values of nitrogen in one study

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    Quote Originally Posted by sciencegal View Post
    Only one of many sources on this.



    Plus the energy from lightning will bond nitrogen to the oxygen in water. Our rain comes along with severe thunder storms so I think it has a higher level of nitrogen. I can water my garden all day long but it never looks better than after a thunderstorm.

    This report gives values of nitrogen in one study
    Agree completely with the electrical charge in a thunderstorm being a trigger for plant health. I swear that minutes before a storm, plants are anticipating it. Almost like they're flexing their muscles before a workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris in Hamilton View Post
    LOL Only recently. So, like mining rights?
    Pretty much, yes. And we are limited to 2 barrels max of stored rainwater at one time.

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    I can't believe they make collecting rain water illegal but then I own the water and mineral rights here.
    Owning the mineral rights should protect you from being fracked.

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