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Watering the Oncids....

This is a discussion on Watering the Oncids.... within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Hi all, I'm having trouble keeping the pseudobulbs on my oncids plump and happy. I ...

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    Hi all,

    I'm having trouble keeping the pseudobulbs on my oncids plump and happy. I have a couple that have the wrinkled leaves....and it seems like once I get them shriveling I have a hard time getting them happy again. *sigh*

    I live in the western US where we get less than 12 inches of rain a year, and the humidity is almost nonexistant (nice when it's in the 100's like this past week!). I grow indoors, we have AC that we run usually the whole month of July and half or so of August then windows open until heating season. I do run a humidifier in my living room for my birds and orchids in the winter.

    My oncids are in a south facing window with a sheer curtain...they are all on humidity trays (lot of good that's doing me...LOL), most of them are in plastic pots, and most of them are in a pretty standard bark mix...a few have a little bit of sphag mixed in.

    I water 2-3 times a week in the summer.....have been soaking them one a month or so. Today I used the 'haul everyone to the sink for a good long drink' method, but otherwise I've just been watering them in place with a watering can.

    Thoughts...suggestions? Most are sending up happy looking new growth, one is about to rebloom (Oncid. ornithorhynchum) with a nice looking bloom stalk. But, the pseudobulbs are telling me these guys are TOO dry/lacking humidity.....

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    it sounds like the humidity in the growing area .They want a humidity of at least 60% . It might also a good isea to mist the plants 2-3 times each day

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    I have a number of Oncids that have shown similar traits but i noticed that when i repotted them that they seemed to perk up.
    I don not think it is the new medium but normally i bury the older growths a bit to keep the new one's level with the new medium.
    I have an Oncidium Aloha Iwanaga"Dogshima" that was pretty big(growing in s/h) & it hasn,t flowered for over a year , the new growths just seem to do nothing .I Split the plant & put 2 divisions in bark mix & buried the older growths just leaving a PB or 2 fully above the medium.Voila ! they have started growing new PB's that look really strong.I also potted the remainder of the mother plant far deeper in the s/h pot & that is also looking far healthier.
    Most of my Onc's tend to climb to a degree & i will try this method with all of them.Except Onc flexuosum which will not stay in pot but grows,flower & produces PB's continually.It is a mass of aerial roots & i spray them twice a day when i spray my ascocenda.

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    Thanks you two....

    *sigh* just what I need....twice/thrice daily misting of more than just my one mounted Brassavola nodosa. LOL Oh well...guess I'm turning into more of a slave to these plants.

    Interesting, Uncasteeb about putting the older growths lower in the medium....I have a couple of plants that I think I could try that with. However, they are quite large, and I wonder where to find deep enough pots that will still be small enough to keep them in fairly tight quarters? hmmm....

    MtEquine (who really thinks she needs a greenhouse, and a winning lottery ticket in order to build one!

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    uncasteeb,I never grow Oncidium flexuosum in a pot as it will have grown out within 1 season and they flower 2 times per year (late summer and late winter).
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    Good God, Murray! That plant could devour New York City! No, I can't imagine a pot that could contain it...

    Jen, if your plant isn't getting enough water (the p-bulbs are telling you that), it won't bloom. Consider a potting mixture that will provide more moisture, or simply water more. If it's that dry where you are, you won't rot it the roots if the mixture allows good air access. Is S/H an option? I don't use it, but it does provide water as the plant needs it. Maybe it wouldn't work in an arid environment. My Onc Alliance guys go nuts in sphag, but I'm in New England. And with the hot weather we've been having, I'm watering constantly (they're all in clay pots), and it's making me a bit crazy.

    Just some thoughts.

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    LOL Julie....that plant of Murray's is huge, I hadn't thought of it devouring a whole city!

    I'm watering these guys 2-3 times a week which seems like a lot....but obviously it's not enough. Also, before last weekend when I actually started thinking about this, I had been just watering them where they sit, instead of hauling them to the sink for a really good soaking. They're potted in plastic, mostly, and a bark mixture.

    I had one of my poor do-ers in a plastic pot with sphag for a while, little/no improvement in the p-bulb and I found I didn't have to water often.

    Will do some checking into S/H....might be worth some experimenting on. Wonder if theres' anyone in the west/arid environment who's having luck with it.

    Thanks for the thoughts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piper
    Good God, Murray! That plant could devour New York City! No, I can't imagine a pot that could contain it...

    Jen, if your plant isn't getting enough water (the p-bulbs are telling you that), it won't bloom. Consider a potting mixture that will provide more moisture, or simply water more. If it's that dry where you are, you won't rot it the roots if the mixture allows good air access. Is S/H an option? I don't use it, but it does provide water as the plant needs it. Maybe it wouldn't work in an arid environment. My Onc Alliance guys go nuts in sphag, but I'm in New England. And with the hot weather we've been having, I'm watering constantly (they're all in clay pots), and it's making me a bit crazy.

    Just some thoughts.

    Julie


    Julie ,that plant isnt huge.
    A friend on mine here in Auckland has 3 of thes plants ,each with over3 dozen spikes and the plants are about 1.5 meters in diamiter.

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    So far, I've seen that the back bulbs on my Oncidium and Brassias seem to stay a bit wrinkled once they get wrinkled. The new pbulbs I've got coming in are full and wrinkle-free. I wonder if this is similar to what you're seeing. Is what I'm seeing common, or is there a way to plump up those back bulbs that I need to be working on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrod
    So far, I've seen that the back bulbs on my Oncidium and Brassias seem to stay a bit wrinkled once they get wrinkled. The new pbulbs I've got coming in are full and wrinkle-free. I wonder if this is similar to what you're seeing. Is what I'm seeing common, or is there a way to plump up those back bulbs that I need to be working on?


    What you are seeing with those plants of yours is normal,They do wrinklr with age and stay that way.

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