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Bottom heat for paphs...???

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    I have heard that this greatly increases growth rate for paphs. Does anyone here use it? How is it applied?, through seedling heat mats? My GH will be built this saturday and I am thinking of incorporating a paph section with heat mats. Thanks for the advice.

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    I have never used one but all my Paphs and Phrags are doing very well without one for many years and we're in Maine!

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    Well if anyone provides an example to follow it would be you Peter, thanks!

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    Bottom heat, from what I've heard, can really accelerate seedling growth. As in newly deflasked seedlings, compots, etc. Once a plant has been in its own pot for a while, say 4" for paphs, I can't imagine that bottom heat would help much.

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    There is a guy close to me that does it with water pipes. He has them zigzagged onlong his bench. He has bloomed some amazingly small paphs, and I am not talking about a freak occurence here. He actually had flats of delenatii all seedling size, all in bloom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest
    There is a guy close to me that does it with water pipes. He has them zigzagged onlong his bench. He has bloomed some amazingly small paphs, and I am not talking about a freak occurence here. He actually had flats of delenatii all seedling size, all in bloom.
    Paph delenatiis are very small plants when compared to the large multiflorals, so yes, delenatii bloom on small plants with or without heating. [Edit- with or without heating mats]

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    Peter, please. I have seen enough delenatii to know the diference. There is no way that under normal circumstances these plants would be in bloom. He prob. has some great fertilizing methods as well, but believe me this was an impressive sight to behold. There are ways to get plants to respond better, keeping their root zone at their preferred temperature is one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest
    Peter, please. I have seen enough delenatii to know the diference. There is no way that under normal circumstances these plants would be in bloom. He prob. has some great fertilizing methods as well, but believe me this was an impressive sight to behold. There are ways to get plants to respond better, keeping their root zone at their preferred temperature is one of them.
    Hey, I'm all for whatever works, GREAT! My point was, based on my own experience (I have been growing Paphs and Phrags for 20 years), started with many tiny baby seedlings and I never once used any kind of heating mat and they all have done wonderfully without one.

    So, whatever works, stick to it!

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    Personally, I would rather a plant not be in bloom before it is of proper size. I suppose that if a plant is healthy enough to bloom *small*, it's probably fine, but I've seen too many precocious paphs that bloom early and then take forever to bloom again...

    An interesting side point is that the old delenatiis are much smaller plants than the *new* rediscovered plants. The old ones mature around 5-6" LS or so, while the new ones get up to 10-12".

    I would imagine that bottom heat would be really helpful for brachys in winter when it gets cool...(and you're trying to chill your multiflorals & parvis into blooming)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmoney
    Personally, I would rather a plant not be in bloom before it is of proper size. I suppose that if a plant is healthy enough to bloom *small*, it's probably fine, but I've seen too many precocious paphs that bloom early and then take forever to bloom again...

    An interesting side point is that the old delenatiis are much smaller plants than the *new* rediscovered plants. The old ones mature around 5-6" LS or so, while the new ones get up to 10-12".

    I would imagine that bottom heat would be really helpful for brachys in winter when it gets cool...(and you're trying to chill your multiflorals & parvis into blooming)
    Jason, you're correct about chilling the multiflorals to bloom.

    I "chill" my multifloral Paphs during the winter months for a few weeks-at least a full month to bloom and adding heat via a heat pad/mat would be a big no-no!

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