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Neo's ranking system

This is a discussion on Neo's ranking system within the General Orchid Culture forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Regarding the "big guns" in the gold rectangles in the Meikan : they are headed ...

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    Regarding the "big guns" in the gold rectangles in the Meikan: they are headed with the term for "excellence". The extract from Jim Breen's WWWJDIC is as follows, for those interested:
    優秀 【ゆうしゅう】 (adj-na,n) superiority; excellence; (P)

    BTW the Meikan is loosely patterned after the charts called Banzuke put out for Sumo wrestling, where the rikishi are ranked, with the Grand Champions (Yokozuna) shown in the largest type and then the descending ranks listed in smaller and smaller type.

    Cheers,

    Huiray.

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    I can read Japanese Kanji or 漢字(direct translation to Chinese = Chinese character), but I don't know how to pronouce it, and I guess all the English translations are simply sound directly mapped to Latin letters which confused me a lot. I wish the vendor would list their plants in Kanji so I don't have rely on a translation site which often create errors.

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    I finally found a fuukiran for sale in Canada. (I also decided not to import yet...) It's Neofinetia falcata 'Shutennou' on the right, a pink flowering division. I got a free plastic fuukiran pot with it imported from Japan which I potted it in today.
    The one on the right it a unnamed Neofinetia falcata I had for a while, the moss doesn't look so nice anymore, so maybe I will repot soon. It's in a ceramic pot I found in China Town.
    They grow underlights on the desk. Around 500 foot candles for 12 hours, plus sunlight from the unshaded window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartie2000 View Post
    I finally found a fuukiran for sale in Canada. (I also decided not to import yet...) It's Neofinetia falcata 'Shutennou' on the right, a pink flowering division. I got a free plastic fuukiran pot with it imported from Japan which I potted it in today.
    The one on the right it a unnamed Neofinetia falcata I had for a while . . .
    They grow underlights on the desk. Around 500 foot candles for 12 hours, plus sunlight from the unshaded window.
    Smartie,
    Hey, I just got a Neofinetia falcata myself. I don't fully understand the whole chart that jtlgh was kind enough to translate, but I am fascinated by these plants. (so I guess that means mine is probably unnamed.) I thought they needed more light than just 500 footcandles. Can you tell me anything else about how you grow yours?

    I love the pot and stands too by the way.

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    Hey Fren, those look great!

    Cheers,
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    It should be more than 500 ft near the top of the plant because the leaves are close to the fluorescent tube (up to over 1000ft). Keep in mind that the plant is exposed to it for the full 12 hrs, while windowsill lighting can fluctuate (for me windowsill can get really low). This is a new set up for me. It's a short fish tank light for a 10 gallon tank. During the summer it was getting afternoon direct sunlight from the window, but daylength is shorter now. The window is on the other side of the room. I don't think it needs as much light as a cattleya, but more than a phal. I think like most orchids giving higher light can give better bloom displays.

    I read for best blooming they need a winter temperature drop. I don't think temperature drops are as important as in deciduous dends for example. I expect night temps in the winter to drop to 18C or less in my house, I think I woke up before last year seeing 15C lol (its because I kept my doors closed and my windows are very ineffiecent, plus the thermostat is set lower at night)

    Neos have been grown successfully indoors (maybe without cool winter temps too?), and I've heard of another person growing them on a desk with a lamp.

    Since I haven't bloomed any of my neos or its crosses maybe someone has advice...

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    Cold, bright and dry in winter tends to help with the flowering, although they can flower with less of a temp differential. 40F is advantageous. Dry short of shrivelling, or even let them shrivel a bit, but with reasonable humidity. Some Japanese growers even demoss them in winter and lay them bare-root on their sides. High light in winter. In their natural environment they grow on deciduous trees perched fairly high up --> bare branches with essentially full sun exposure in winter with cold breezes + mist. The variegated fuukirans might be a consideration, appreciating them for their vegetation, if a cold over-wintering is difficult. You live in Edmonton, perhaps there is a way to get them 'almost outside but still part inside' in winter where you are?

    Does the plant you have in that ceramic pot have a LARGE hole in the bottom? If not I would swap it for one as soon as possible. You need ventilation through the center of the moss through the root ball.

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    A scan of the 2008 Meikan: ((4 patched quadrants). Greatly reduced resolution/size to fit this forum's limits. The full-sized image I put together is about 5MB.
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    I can't read characters but thanks for posting...someone might need it
    I got a tiny little spike on my bigger neo On the windowsill though. I took down this underlight set up above so that I could put in a small aquarium

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    YES, thanks for posting that image. I cannot read the character, but can admire the beauty of the list.

    Cheers,
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