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New Noid!

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    I found a box store that had something besides phals! ... But they had 3 of these and all were noids. I'm not sure what it is... Dend maybe? It's only 11.5" tall and looks like a fairly young plant - blooms are 2" across. The paper peels off and the stems/pb's are green beneath. The thing is potted in extra-fine bark and was sitting in a sealed pot with about 1/2" of water in the bottom... and the roots look perfectly healthy with no sign of rot - even the ones that were living submerged.

    What is this and what kind of culture should I use?
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    It is a young dendrobium.
    It definitely will not like soggy roots. Perhaps it was just recently repotted prior to you purchasing it so the roots have not been damaged yet.

    Most cane types have similar requirements as cattleyas but they can tolerate wetter conditions. But they still need a dry out period between waterings.

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    Cool! Thanks. I thought maybe... and I'm hoping maybe it will stay shorter... or at least get tall slowly. But given the height difference between the smaller growths and then double that to the newest one...

    The roots are all white, maybe tinged yellow. I thought this may be lack of light rather than rot issues. The media looks like its in decent shape.. And it has round gray fertilizer pellets mixed in (they don't pop when I squeeze). Haven't decided if I want to repot it or if I should just leave it alone.

    They had a pink one and one with an empty spike... I needed something dark purple like this.

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    It's a very nice dark purple too!

    I like the sound of the height as well, I definintely need some more small plants.....

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    I am sure however tall it gets, you will do great with it! Glad you found this dark purple one. Every collections needs lots of fun shades of colors. Just think how fab this one will look next to a big, bright, lemon-yellow floofy bloom. The perfect compliment! heheheeee

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    Great find Sara. Love dark purple. I know how it feels to only see phals every time you visit a new store. As soon as you see something else you just have to have it. It almost happened to me with slippers last week, but I wanted to wait for an easier paph to try first. Good luck with the dend.

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    Given the proper conditions, these plants WILL grow tall.
    When they leave the compot the canes are usually 2-3 inches tall and the newer growth will be almost double the height. And the next one after that will be taller than the previous growth.
    They will continue to double in height until about 2 to 3 feet depending on the parentage, but still continue to grow taller than the previous cane. Some can get crazy like 8 feet.

    Nice thing about cane types is that they consume a relatively small horizontal space (except for the flower sprays). So you can put several of them close to each other without having them invade each other's space.
    You just need to make sure the pot is heavy so that it does not topple over with the weight of the canes.

    I like the deep purple color that you have there.

    I am still searching for a really dark purple (almost black) dendrobium. Named cross or NOID, it does not matter. I dont know why, its just one of those things on my to do list hehehe.

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    Default Thanks all! :D

    You mean like the Potinara Thi-ti 'Chanchai Gold' I just got? It's in sheath, but the growth with the sheath in it got pretty badly banged up in shipment (bare root), so it may abort. But there's always next year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutal_Dreamer View Post
    I am sure however tall it gets, you will do great with it! Glad you found this dark purple one. Every collections needs lots of fun shades of colors. Just think how fab this one will look next to a big, bright, lemon-yellow floofy bloom. The perfect compliment! heheheeee

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    8 feet? Hopefully it doesn't get so tall too fast. I need time to find enough room for something so tall! I'm starting to get a handle on the tipping problem (mostly me tipping things over on accident) - put the plastic pot inside a vented ceramic pot for weight, then make sure it's on a flat surface! (I have a wire shelving unit, so I've found those cork plant coasters work for me.)

    And I've seen a couple of super dark red dends for sale online, but don't know about purple-black....

    Quote Originally Posted by wetfeet101b View Post
    Given the proper conditions, these plants WILL grow tall.
    When they leave the compot the canes are usually 2-3 inches tall and the newer growth will be almost double the height. And the next one after that will be taller than the previous growth.
    They will continue to double in height until about 2 to 3 feet depending on the parentage, but still continue to grow taller than the previous cane. Some can get crazy like 8 feet.

    Nice thing about cane types is that they consume a relatively small horizontal space (except for the flower sprays). So you can put several of them close to each other without having them invade each other's space.
    You just need to make sure the pot is heavy so that it does not topple over with the weight of the canes.

    I like the deep purple color that you have there.

    I am still searching for a really dark purple (almost black) dendrobium. Named cross or NOID, it does not matter. I dont know why, its just one of those things on my to do list hehehe.

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