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Odtna & Vuyl

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    Question Odtna & Vuyl

    So, today I picked up an Odtna Susan Bogdanow 'Alsmeer' HCC/AOS and a Vuyl Aloha Passion 'HOF #1' at my local big box store. They were on the clearance rack marked down to $5.66 each. So I brought them home, and I had to repot the Odtna immediately, it was so loose it almost fell out of the medium and the pot on the way home. I'm saving the Vuyl for tomorrow.

    I was just wondering if anyone knows much about these hybrids. I'm not really familiar at all with any of the parent genera of them. So any extra info would be appreciated.

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    Sorry I can't help but I would have bought them at that price also. Will be watching the thread with interest.
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    I am SO jealous! We never get anything near that price!

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    Judiuk,
    On the one hand you should be happy that your British currency has such purchasing power. My daughter attended grad school in London last year and, trust me when I tell you, my chin almost hit the ground when I got the bill for the council taxes, the cost of food and the rentand utilities!!!!! I know just a refection of our dollar to the pound. If I could send plants to you at a reasonable cost, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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    Grow these as oncidium culture suggests.
    Below is a copy / paste from the RVO Care page. It should give you some guidance.

    Light Requirements:


    1500 - 2000 footcandles

    A bright kitchen window with no direct sun is perfect for these medium-light loving lants.
    Temperature:

    70 - 90 degrees F. daytime, 60 - 65 degrees F. night.
    Humidity:

    40 - 65 % relative humidity is ideal.
    Notes:

    In general, Oncidiums and the intergeneric hybrids produced with them form sprays sometimes over four feet long of tiny, often yellow or pink-tinted flowers that can make quite a show. Almost all are fragrant. They grow quickly, and it is not unusual for new pseudobulbs to stair-step their way out of a pot, throwing thin roots everywhere. These can be misted with fertilizer solution diluted from 1/3 to 1/2 strength each time the pot is watered. Oncidiinae appreciate good air movement. Plants that receive sufficient light to flower often exhibit scores of tiny brown spots on the leaves and their leaf-tips frequently turn yellow. The leaves themselves can be quite brittle and will split naturally during normal growth, so the foliage is usually not considered particularly attractive. Equitant oncidiums can be difficult, as they require a cool spell at the end of the growing season to initiate the next years flowering.

    Good luck!

    Cheers,
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    PS - We have the Vuyl Aloha Passion 'HOF' and it grows like a weed with the above culture. You will love this orchid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutal_Dreamer View Post
    Grow these as oncidium culture suggests.
    Below is a copy / paste from the RVO Care page. It should give you some guidance.

    Light Requirements:


    1500 - 2000 footcandles

    A bright kitchen window with no direct sun is perfect for these medium-light loving lants.
    Temperature:

    70 - 90 degrees F. daytime, 60 - 65 degrees F. night.
    Humidity:

    40 - 65 % relative humidity is ideal.
    Notes:

    In general, Oncidiums and the intergeneric hybrids produced with them form sprays sometimes over four feet long of tiny, often yellow or pink-tinted flowers that can make quite a show. Almost all are fragrant. They grow quickly, and it is not unusual for new pseudobulbs to stair-step their way out of a pot, throwing thin roots everywhere. These can be misted with fertilizer solution diluted from 1/3 to 1/2 strength each time the pot is watered. Oncidiinae appreciate good air movement. Plants that receive sufficient light to flower often exhibit scores of tiny brown spots on the leaves and their leaf-tips frequently turn yellow. The leaves themselves can be quite brittle and will split naturally during normal growth, so the foliage is usually not considered particularly attractive. Equitant oncidiums can be difficult, as they require a cool spell at the end of the growing season to initiate the next years flowering.

    Good luck!

    Cheers,
    BD

    PS - We have the Vuyl Aloha Passion 'HOF' and it grows like a weed with the above culture. You will love this orchid!
    Yeah, the Vuyl had a dried spike on it, and while cutting it off I noticed that it has a 1 1/2" growth already!

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    I want a greenhouse.....pout pout. Then i could try some of the cooler gowing types. Someday.....right after we hit the lottery!
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    Hi,
    I had the Odtna Susan Bogdanow ‘Alsmeer’ HCC/AOS
    for 2 years before I lost it to scale insects just after it bloomed. I am learning.

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    Hi all
    I am now breeding these alliances and have modeled the growing environment on that of the best grower here in New Zealand.To give you an ideal he has been growing and breeding these for approx 50 years.

    Summer shading 60 - 70% = 8000 -10000 lux = 750 - 930 fc,yes its low and if Odontoglossum crispum is used in the breeding the lower light levels are better.


    Winter shading 50% ,this gives slightly brighter winter light level than the summer levels.It keeps them growing.


    watering/Humidity. these do not really go hand in hand but the Odtna will want more water and humidity.Do not let the Odtna dry out or the pbulbs show any sign of wrinkling (both signs of under watering,but also root loss),The vuyastekeara will take to less water.


    Humidity should be high for both,nothing below 70%.Reasoning - the percentage is from cloud forests.If ferns are not growing in the growing area or mounted plants the humidity is not high enough.


    Temperature . both of us are monitoring the temp constantly and if the temp goes over 75 F or 24 C misting comes on for 1 - 2 minutes.This misting can come on again 15 minutes later if the temperature is still above the preset temperature and at any time of the day or night of the year,even in winter.

    Air movement ,keep this up even to go as far as installing fans.

    Feeding can be done 3 X per week under these conditions,and they can flower every 8 months.And whats more from flask to the first flowers = 18 months.



    Quote Originally Posted by Brutal_Dreamer View Post
    Grow these as oncidium culture suggests.
    Below is a copy / paste from the RVO Care page. It should give you some guidance.

    Light Requirements:


    1500 - 2000 footcandles

    A bright kitchen window with no direct sun is perfect for these medium-light loving lants.
    Temperature:

    70 - 90 degrees F. daytime, 60 - 65 degrees F. night.
    Humidity:

    40 - 65 % relative humidity is ideal.
    Notes:

    In general, Oncidiums and the intergeneric hybrids produced with them form sprays sometimes over four feet long of tiny, often yellow or pink-tinted flowers that can make quite a show. Almost all are fragrant. They grow quickly, and it is not unusual for new pseudobulbs to stair-step their way out of a pot, throwing thin roots everywhere. These can be misted with fertilizer solution diluted from 1/3 to 1/2 strength each time the pot is watered. Oncidiinae appreciate good air movement. Plants that receive sufficient light to flower often exhibit scores of tiny brown spots on the leaves and their leaf-tips frequently turn yellow. The leaves themselves can be quite brittle and will split naturally during normal growth, so the foliage is usually not considered particularly attractive. Equitant oncidiums can be difficult, as they require a cool spell at the end of the growing season to initiate the next years flowering.

    Good luck!

    Cheers,
    BD

    PS - We have the Vuyl Aloha Passion 'HOF' and it grows like a weed with the above culture. You will love this orchid!

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