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Epi. Mabel Kanda 'Miyao' x Epi. Randianum

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    Default Epi. Mabel Kanda 'Miyao' x Epi. Randianum

    Hi,
    I bought this orchid about 3 mo. ago at a local big-box store (pics attached). I didn't have an Epi., so I wanted to try something new. In the few months that I've been trying my hand at growing orchids, I have not seen an Epi. at this store.....which gave me more "reason" to buy it. lol I unpotted it when I got home and found that it only had fair roots after I trimmed the bad ones off. I repotted it in Better-Gro bark orchid mix and then started looking for care info, but I couldn't find much. From what little I gathered, though, it needed quite a bit of light (not sure about fc ??), should dry between waterings, 80-85% day temp., and no less than 60 degress at night. That's approx. what I have provided for it as well as about 1500-2000 fc. I haven't been sure about humidity, though. I have had it in a room with some of my other orchids in 60-65% humidity. I hope that's been ok. ?? It looked "bent out of shape" and a little shabby when I bought it, but I hoped it would cheer up and look more heathy. It doesn't look any different than it did then, though, so I've started to wonder if I have been taking care of it as I should have. By the way, when I bought it I just assumed that it was supposed to look sorta dark purple...is this correct? Would some of you Epi. experts please tell me the care it needs, please?
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    Epicyclia. Mabel Kanda 'Miyao' (Enc cordigerum x Epi floribundum) is a spring bloomer and I don't have Encyclia randianum in my collection. (It used to be called Enc randii) So your plant has Encyclia and Epidendrum in it.

    I would expect upright growths but I suspect yours looked like it does from the way it was grown prior to you getting it. Your culture research is correct. I keep my high in the greenhouse hanging from a pipe, in a wood basket.Good humidity and watered 1X per week at this time of the year. 2X per week in the heat of summer.

    The color is from randianum which has a purplish flush to it's leaves.

    Here is a thread with some info
    http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchid...bel-kanda.html
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    Hi Ron!
    Thanks for your reply! Would you suggest that I repot it in a wood basket and try to hang it somewhat as you have yours, or do you think I should continue to try to grow it as it is now, although it is not in an upright postion? By the way, this is the only orchid that I have potted in anything other than a clay or plastic pot or a basket. At the time I repotted the plant, I didn't have any of these, but I do now. Do you think that a wood basket would have been better? If so, I can make the change.

    I'm sorry to bombard you with more questions. If you have time, and don't mind, I sure would appreciate your help.

    Thanks again,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron-NY View Post
    Epicyclia. Mabel Kanda 'Miyao' (Enc cordigerum x Epi floribundum) is a spring bloomer and I don't have Enncyclia randianum in my collection. (It used to be called Enc randii) So your plant has Encyclia and Epidendrum in it.

    I would expect upright growths but I suspect yours looked like it does from the way it was grown prior to you getting it. Your culture research is correct. I keep my high in the greenhouse hanging from a pipe, in a wood basket.Good humidity and watered 1X per week at this time of the year. 2X per week in the heat of summer.

    The color is from randianum which has a purplish flush to it's leaves.

    Here is a thread with some info
    http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchid...bel-kanda.html

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    Vicki...no problem at all.

    That ceramic pot, if you wish to continue to use it for this purpose will allow good drainage and can be kept. The roots will eventually wander out of the drainage holes. If you ever choose to hang it you can add a 4-wire hanger, so that is not an issue. It has only been in the pot for a few weeks, if you wish to switch it to a slat basket, that would be fine as well.

    I would expect that the next growth will be upright. At the time of new growth you should also notice new root growth. With good culture, it may take a year and 1/2 to bring your plant into bloom (my guess would be April-June 2010) but it may surprise you with blooms on the next growth.

    the best of luck with it...should be a pretty flower!

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    I have a few of those pots...the only thing to watch is that you have to tip them about an hour after watering to let the run off water to drain out. Otherwise it'll be the root rot at the bottom.
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    p.s. I love those baggie babies....now if only they would come out with some new ones!

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    Hi Ron,
    I'm afraid I have a bigger problem than I thought. I have attached pictures. After I read your reply below, I decided to take another look at my plant, then reply to you. 1st I started to tie/stake it, then as I looked closer, I saw that some of both old growths were partially mushy.....especially the tallest one. After I straightened the plant (as much as possible, which wasn't much), a lot of the root system was exposed, so I was able to take a picture of it. I see some bad roots.....but I'm too new at this to know if any are good or not. So, what do you think now.....is saving it's life still in the picture? I can wait for new growth.....that's not a problem, but I'm wondering now if there WILL be any new growths. ??

    I really do appreciate your help, but if you can see it in your heart to help this poor newie once more, I would be forever grateful. :>)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron-NY View Post
    Vicki...no problem at all.

    That ceramic pot, if you wish to continue to use it for this purpose will allow good drainage and can be kept. The roots will eventually wander out of the drainage holes. If you ever choose to hang it you can add a 4-wire hanger, so that is not an issue. It has only been in the pot for a few weeks, if you wish to switch it to a slat basket, that would be fine as well.

    I would expect that the next growth will be upright. At the time of new growth you should also notice new root growth. With good culture, it may take a year and 1/2 to bring your plant into bloom (my guess would be April-June 2010) but it may surprise you with blooms on the next growth.

    the best of luck with it...should be a pretty flower!
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    Vicki. The roots look dehydrated but alive and that is good and the way should look. When watered they should turn green. It the growth soft or watery mushy? Is there a smell to it?

    I will check back tomorrow for your answers.

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    Hi Connie!
    Thanks so much for your reply! I have re-evaluated my problem and am wondering now if this plant can even be saved (I posted the details to Ron and attached pics). ?? As you know, I'm one of the new kids on the block (approx. 6 mo.).....so, I have no idea what to do next.

    As for the pot, I have already seen what you are talking about with another one I have similar to this, and this one, of course. I don't particularily care for ceramic pots with the darin saucer attached for the exact reason that you said.

    Referring to your "P.S.".....Hopefully, someday I will learn more about what to look for in a "bag-baby" plant. I didn't a very good job choosing this plant, I'm afraid.

    Again, thanks very much for your help!
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    I have a few of those pots...the only thing to watch is that you have to tip them about an hour after watering to let the run off water to drain out. Otherwise it'll be the root rot at the bottom.
    Connie
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    Hi Ron,
    I watered the plant last night and also took another picture of the roots.....so you could see the color when wet. Much of the growth (actually both) feels soft and mushy...."gooey", but not literally watery.....there is no liquid that I can feel. As for smell, I don't think there is any.....I believe what I'm smelling when I lean down to check the growth is the bark in the pot. (lol) So, to answer your question seriously.....no, there is not a smell.

    Thanks again......I appreciate you hanging in there to help me.
    Vicki

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron-NY View Post
    Vicki. The roots look dehydrated but alive and that is good and the way should look. When watered they should turn green. It the growth soft or watery mushy? Is there a smell to it?

    I will check back tomorrow for your answers.
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    Default Epidendrum randianum

    I was looking for more information on one of my orchids- Epidendrum randianum- which started growing really well after getting it on a regular feeding schedule- and has not only bloomed (as you can see) but has an amazing fragrance.

    Anyhooo... Thought y'all might appreciate this image & sincerely hope you've been able to resolve your plants' troubles...
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