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Free flowering Catts

This is a discussion on Free flowering Catts within the Genus Specific forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; I have a very basic question when it comes to defining the term 'Free flowering' ...

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    I have a very basic question when it comes to defining the term 'Free flowering' cattleya or any orchid for that matter.
    What does this term mean? Does this mean that it is very floriferous ( many flowers per inflorescence) or it blooms multiple times a year ( not fixed flowering season, but along with every new pesudobulb any time of the year) or does it mean something completely different??
    What I am interested in are cattleyas that bloom through out the year, with each new pseudobulb etc. My Potinata Loog tone flowers almost 4 times a year with as many as 10 flowers each time. Whereas my Blc Golden Mul 'Orient' also flowers 4 times a year but with only 4 to 5 flowers each time.
    Some other catts are blooming only once a year. What I want to know is what decides this flowering pattern, and which parents attribute this multiple flowering per year property in Catts?

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    Free flowering...in my experience (limited experience! lol); means everytime you get a new growth, you will get flowers. I have had a few of the laelia, or medium sized catts, bloom repeatedly. They would put out a new growth or growths, and then bloom. The ones that do that and then get sick make you want to cry! I miss my Janet blooms...they were a constant and then I repotted it and it's not been the same.

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    I agree with Connie regarding the free flowering characteristic of catts.Where I live where the day temp is almost a constant 90F/34C and night temp 80F/24

    I agree with Connie regarding the free flowering characteristic of catts.Where I live the day temp is a constant 90F/34C and night 80F/24C mini catts esp those with sophronitis lineage are really difficult to flower. Large and medium yellows do very well, and lavenders are ok too.Whites except for C Hawaiian Wedding Song are not so obliging.I see that Amey lives in Pune and so the climate is quite similar to ours except the winters may be cooler and our Looq Tone are just as floriferous.By the way Looq Tone in Thai means 'Hardy Child' and that's exactly what it is!

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    I don't know that I have ever seen an exact technical definition, but the term free flowering refers to the plant blooming frequently and easily. How many flowers and how often the plant blooms depends on genetic background of the plant. In general, it seems that the mini-catts tend to grow more quickly and bloom more frequently. Species are more likely to have a specific blooming season, though there are probably exceptions-I don't know a lot about Catts because do not grow many of them.

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    Thanks Connie and Susan for confirming what I thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by orchidlady View Post
    How many flowers and how often the plant blooms depends on genetic background of the plant. Species are more likely to have a specific blooming season, though there are probably exceptions-I don't know a lot about Catts because do not grow many of them.

    Susan
    This is what exactly I want to know, which parent species among the laelias, cattleyas and sophronitis will tend to generate free flowering plants? I have read about about cattleya mossiae being a free flowerer (Feb to June)

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    Quote Originally Posted by catttan View Post
    I see that Amey lives in Pune and so the climate is quite similar to ours except the winters may be cooler and our Looq Tone are just as floriferous.By the way Looq Tone in Thai means 'Hardy Child' and that's exactly what it is!
    Yes Yew, the climate is similar, but we have cooler winters (40-65 F) and much drier summers.
    Thanks for translating the name for me, I really wondered what it meant. One of the parents is Netrasiri doll (Netrasiri means beautiful eyes in my mother tongue Marathi) and one grand parent is Lc. Sukanya (Sukanya means a good, virtuous girl in my language). Both these plants I believe are registered from Thailand, do they mean anything in thai?? Would love to know it.

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    Much of the the Thai language is Sanskrit based and Sanskrit being of Indian origin the meanings are similar.Your climate is very similar to northern Thailand which is tropical while my place being 10 degrees further south is sub-tropical, with a distinct dry season Dec-Mar, which is quite unique as the rest of the country is equatorial with rain all year round.

    I see a question mark concerning my use of 'medium' yellow cattts. Sorry for the lack of clarity- what I should have said was' medium-sized' as opposed to the growing medium.For general information here our growing medium is almost 90% charcoal.

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    Amey-I did some asking around about easy/frequent blooming Catts and got some recommendations from some orchid buddies:

    Bl. Sunset Glory ( Bl Richard Mueller X L. purpurata is in bloom or bud all year since I have 2 plants. Fragrance is mild citrus. Bl Golden Glory ( Bl Richard Mueller X L tenebrosa) has the same reputation as do a number of other Bl Richard Mueller hybrids. I have not heard of quicker reblooming Catts than these yet so if you like the shape of the flowers I would recommend them.

    Blc. Mari's Glory (Blc Mari s Song x Bl Morning Glory) flowers are long-lasting (~5weeks), over 6 inches, strong floral fragrance wafts across the room. Started blooming 3 times a year. I expect more since it produces multiple leads.

    Pot. Hoku Gem 'Freckles' blooms up to 4 times a year. Basically from every new growth that matures. It also likes to send up multiple new growths at the same time so in time you get a really nice show. It also changes color as the flower ages. It starts out kind of a brick red and ends up being a bright yellow with red spots.

    C. Summer Spot 'Carmela' is also another easy bloomer. It's big lavendar blooms smell heavenly. It may not be as free flowering as Hoku Gem, but I'd say it blooms at least twice a year.

    Lc Yaw Huan 'Angel' blooms 3-4 times a year if it is kept pot-bound and smells like Channel perfume!

    C. Bactia 'Grape Wax'

    Blc Goldenzelle 'Saddle Peak'

    Blc Hwa Yuan Grace 'Cat King'

    I hope that gives you some ideas.

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    good discussion. To me potinaras are the most free flowering in my collection, others hybrids don't do as good as potinaras do , and of course, the species don't, either

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    Thanks a tonne Susan, I am already looking at the photos of these plants and drooling lol. I have also just found out a vendor with Blc Goldenzelle 'Saddle Peak', and I will order that soon. Thanks once again !

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