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blooming time for hybrid phals?

This is a discussion on blooming time for hybrid phals? within the Genus Specific forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; So, I know (at least I thought I knew) most phals are supposed to bloom ...

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    Default blooming time for hybrid phals?

    So, I know (at least I thought I knew) most phals are supposed to bloom in the fall, but I see them all over the the place in big box stores (and on here) in bloom now. Since it's still not super hot in the Northeast and it's above frost temps at night...could I put my phals outside at night in hopes of producing a spike or two? Are the complex hybrids more likely to bloom whenever you give them a temp drop? I'm tired of just having leafy green things at my desk :/

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    Ali, our hybrid phals actually start blooming in the spring here. Usually around February and they stay in bloom though most of the summer. Spikes are started in the winter months when temps drop down into the upper 50's in our greenhouse.

    If temperature in your area is not below 55 degrees at night - put them outside and let them get the cool down. Then, make sure they get plenty of filtered, bright light. Good luck!! (And not all phals need the cool down - some just need good, bright light to spike.)

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    Ditto to Bruce! Mine usually in spring, and they start spiking in the winter. They're blooming right now!
    Phals like a temperature drop in the winter

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    Ah, I guess I had my terms mixed up I forget that spikes and buds take some time to develop before blooming actually occurs haha! So what I meant was I know people start cooling their plants at night in the fall/winter to get ready for spring flowers... but if it's not necessary to follow that and one can give them the temp drop at any time to produce spikes, then maybe I'll do it now so I don't have to wait till next year for flowers! Wish me luck!!!

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    Some commercial growers keep their phals above 80 degress so blooming is supressed and the plants can use their energy on growing leaves. When blooming is suppressed the phals build up blooming potential and they can produce more flowers and multiple spikes. When the plants get big enough to sell, they drop the temperature to induce blooming. If your plant bloomed recently it used up most of it's blooming energy. Even if you can induce the plant to bloom again, it probably won't have as many flowers. Phals use the summer months to store energy to be used during the normal bloom cycle. Of course there's no problem in experimenting with temperature drops. By the way, some of the small sequential blooming phals are summer bloomers. They have smaller flowers and fewer of them, but they can often stay in bloom all summer and into the fall. With a few standard phals and a few summer blooming phals you can have flowers most of the year.

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    ^ Thanks for this Jeff None of mine have bloomed since I got them and the original flowers faded. I am assuming after reading a lot more on phals that it's likely the lack of temp difference where I grow them. And probably a bit more light couldn't hurt. Some I have had for more than two years without new spikes. All are very healthy with tons of leaves and thick roots. A few I'm looking to repot in the near future as well since they're getting top heavy and overgrowing their too-shallow pots. Well, I'll let you folks know my results if I get any!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoStems View Post
    ^ Thanks for this Jeff None of mine have bloomed since I got them and the original flowers faded. I am assuming after reading a lot more on phals that it's likely the lack of temp difference where I grow them. And probably a bit more light couldn't hurt. Some I have had for more than two years without new spikes. All are very healthy with tons of leaves and thick roots. A few I'm looking to repot in the near future as well since they're getting top heavy and overgrowing their too-shallow pots. Well, I'll let you folks know my results if I get any!
    I agree that a little more light may help. Good luck, I hope you get some flowers.

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    I have lots of Phals and each behave very differently all was in bloom at different stages haven't just gone into Fall now 2 of my Phals have put out a spike after giving them 2 months of cooler induction it was 6 months ago from their last spike so they had all that time to rebuild and store up energy. 2 other Phals are still stubborn as mule I watch everyday for sign of anything .. but perhaps around spring or summer they will kick into action figers cross.....

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    After I bought my current Phal., I immediately repotted it and cut the original spike off to help it focus on growing new roots and leaves. It wasn't in bad condition at all, but I wanted it to be the healthiest Phal. it could be. Can't defy the laws of nature, because it immediately (literally two days later) began to develop a new spike. When it finally bloomed (months later, I might add - the damn thing takes forever to fully grow out a spike), it had about 11 flowers, as opposed to the original measly five when I bought it. The color was also more brilliant. I'm not sure if I did something right or not, but I'm not complaining - all 11 flowers are still in perfect condition and it's been in bloom since December(!). I'm a bit disappointed that it didn't throw out another spike so I could've really had a show, but que sera sera. I'm actually thinking of cutting this one off again, but I'm not sure if there'd be a point. It grows roots, leaves and spikes all at once so it's not like the flowers drain it from producing the essentials.

    .............I guess this was more a "my phalaenopsis story" rather than advice. Sorry. haha

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    You're lucky! I cut the spike down on all of mine once the blooms dropped and they just kept putting out roots and roots and more roots! And some leaves too... I have a plan now though, so I'm hoping it's successful You guys will know in a few months!

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